b1soul Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Name 'em all! Any special characterstics about each one? I think some primarchs had more than one? I recall the Emp had the Bucephelus and another one... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Imperator Somnium. As for Primarchs: - Swordstorm for the Scars - notable for going from nought to Cripes That's Fast in a time that left either Alpharius or Omegon in shock - Conqueror for the World Eaters - deadliest weapons include Ursus Claws and Lotara Sarrin - the Word Bearers have the Fidelitas Lex plus the Blessed Lady and that other mahoosive one that isn't the Furious Abyss - the Endurance, much like it's Death Guard masters, simply absorbs punishment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Don't know if you'd class it as a flagship but the Imperial Fists have the Phalanx. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Shadow of the Emperor for the Raven Guard, Alpha and Beta for the Alpha Legion, Nightfall for the Night Lords, The Red Tear for the Blood Angels, The Invincible Reason was the Lions I think, Vengeful Spirit for Horus, Pride of the Emperor I think the Emperors Children one was? The Imperial Fists had the Phalanx which was some massive star fortress type thing, possibly of Xenos origin? Hrafnkel was Russ's, Iron Blood was Perturabos, Photep was the Thousand Sons, Macragges Honour was the Ultramarines. I don't know much about them past their names and they're all Gloriana class except the Phalanx. Shadow of the Emperor was stealthier than the others, Swordstorm was faster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm pretty sure the Phalanx was made by human hands, whether Dorn did all the work or he simply refurbished a Dark Age relic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm pretty sure the Phalanx was made by human hands, whether Dorn did all the work or he simply refurbished a Dark Age relic. Ah, that's what I was thinking of yeah. Dark age origins, not xenos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Also, having reread Prince of Crows yesterday, you're totally right about Invincible Reason Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedwaKe Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Here's a little more information about the Hrafnkel: The Hrafnkel was lord Russ flagship; a gloriana class vessel the equal of the Vengeful spirit, the Iron Blood or the Conqueror. Its name comes from the mythological Fenrisian King Hrafnkel, who turned his back on the old gods and instead looked to his sons for strength in battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farseer Anath'lan Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I looked this up when I made a Heresy Era BFG list. I saved the list as a pic though. Here's what I found. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz14/ElSycorax/1_zpsny3dimwh.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurulf Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Imperial Fists also had a Gloriana class ship as well as the Phalanx, It is mentioned in Pretorian of Dorn cant remember the name off hand. Il check later when I get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Iron Blood wasn't a Gloriana. That was built as per Perturabo's designs. Considering there were only 20 built the 2 missing ones somehow ended up with the Word Bearers (according to Betrayer/Tempest their fleet in Ultramar incorporated a few, even accounting of the Lex burning) So that leaves: Invincible Reason - Dark Angels Gloariana #2 - Unknown Pride of the Emperor - Emperor's Children Gloariana #4 - Presumably still Iron Warriors Swordstorm - White Scars (Destroyed) Hrafnkel - Space Wolves Gloriana #7 - Presumably still Imperial Fists (would be cool if this was the Eternal Crusader) Nightfall - Night Lords Red Tear - Blood Angels Ferrum - Iron Hands (Destroyed) Conquerer - World Eaters Maccragge's Honour - Ultramarines Endurance - Death Guard Photep - Thousand Sons Vengeful Spirit - Sons of Horus Fidelitas Lex - Word Bearers (Destroyed) Flamewrought - Salamanders (Destroyed) Shadow of the Emperor - Raven Guard (Destroyed) Alpha/Beta - Alpha Legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Iron Blood wasn't a Gloriana. That was built as per Perturabo's designs. As far as I am aware, The Iron Blood was in fact a Gloriana although designed and tweaked by Perturabo and I am pretty sure there is some art work out there with a size chart? I don't have the time to research at the moment however, so I will confirm when I get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yeah I'm pretty sure the Iron Blood is a Gloriana class, it was just built at Olympia and to Perturabo's specs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Iron Blood wasn't a Gloriana. That was built as per Perturabo's designs. Considering there were only 20 built the 2 missing ones somehow ended up with the Word Bearers (according to Betrayer/Tempest their fleet in Ultramar incorporated a few, even accounting of the Lex burning) So that leaves: Invincible Reason - Dark Angels Gloariana #2 - Unknown Pride of the Emperor - Emperor's Children Gloariana #4 - Presumably still Iron Warriors Swordstorm - White Scars (Destroyed) Hrafnkel - Space Wolves Gloriana #7 - Presumably still Imperial Fists (would be cool if this was the Eternal Crusader) Nightfall - Night Lords Red Tear - Blood Angels Ferrum - Iron Hands (Destroyed) Conquerer - World Eaters Maccragge's Honour - Ultramarines Endurance - Death Guard Photep - Thousand Sons Vengeful Spirit - Sons of Horus Fidelitas Lex - Word Bearers (Destroyed) Flamewrought - Salamanders (Destroyed) Shadow of the Emperor - Raven Guard (Destroyed) Alpha/Beta - Alpha Legion Just a note - the Ferrum wasn't the Xth Legion's flagship - it was used after Fulgrim's ambush crippled the Fist of Iron to get Ferrus & his vanguard to Isstvan V as quickly as possible Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydriatus Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Also, the Iron Blood had no windows - structural weaknesses. As mentioned in The Crimson Fist story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 You may find this resource to be handy, although it hasn't been updated since autumn last year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurulf Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Imperial Fists also had a Gloriana class ship as well as the Phalanx, It is mentioned in Pretorian of Dorn cant remember the name off hand. Il check later when I get home. The Monarch of Fire cut through the night. Plumes of plasma trailed from vents on her prow and cage-topped towers. Arcs of blue lightning wreathed her guns as they built charge. Within her hull, reactors –which were a mystery even to the highest initiates of the Machine Cult –poured raw plasma into the cannons that studded her prow. Vast doors peeled back along her flanks. Racks of bombardment launchers slid into the starlight. In any other fleet she would have been a queen of devastation, but in the armada of Rogal Dorn she was the herald to her monarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4586831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 some things: The Imperial Armada has its own Gloriana class ships, most notable example was 'Amphion' which was used in the war against Xana forge. While the Word Bearer's flagship may have been Gloriana Class 'Fidelitas Rex', they had three ships which were considerably bigger and more powerful, 'The FuriousAbyss', 'Trisagion' and 'Blessed Lady' - all known as Abyss class. The Imperial Fists have ' Phalanx' which for all intents and purposes is a super duper Blackstone fortress. The Death Guard were also given the 'Terminus Est' by the Emperor, which is of unknown design much older than the great crusade. It's design would be imitated in M36 to create the Despoiler class we all know but none of the clones could match the original. The power of the Terminus becomes apparent at the Seige of Terra when it covers the retreat of the chaos forces after Horus is slain, although it is also noted that the ship was designed for planetary assaults and as such is rather cumbersome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4587042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The Hrafnkel and Macragge's Honour look a lot more similar to each other than to the Iron Blood, even if only superficially: heavyset, a steep prow, large rear vanes/panels like those on 40k-style battlebarges. Most of the other Glorianas have only been depicted in the older and variable CCG art, so you end up with the Endurance looking like an oversized escort. 'Gloriana' seems to have been a pretty broad classification though so presumably the Iron Blood's significant differences can be put down to the fact that it was built during the great crusade at Olympia to Perturabo's own specifications, rather than being a gift from the Emperor. While the Gloriana ships were flagships or generally top dog (except for the IF or WB), there were a lot of other standout ships which found favour with the primarchs. Disease mentions the Terminus Est but Mortarion also made use of a specially designed assault ship, the Fourth Horseman. Russ is also mentioned as sometimes quietly leaving the Hrafnkel to ride along with particular great companies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328576-e-and-primarch-flagships/#findComment-4587094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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