I.A. The Hangmen

[Bloodwraith]

Founding: 5th

Date: Between late M31 (Possible 2nd Founding) or Late M32 only other known Chapter of record for this founding The Marines Malevolent. Conflicting Records date the Hangmen to the 2nd Founding and the Death Dealers to the 3rd founding.

Geneseed: Imperial Fists

Chapter Name:The Hangmen (1^st Company is known as the Death Dealers)

Chapter Master: Hel Charon

Homeworld: Warden IV part of the Warden Penal System

Colors: All white with black accents and a black stripe on the helmets (1^st companyBlack/White/Red)

Chapter symbol: a Hangman noose encircled (1^st Company Ace of Spades with a Skull )

Death is our aly for where we go she has not been, but where we leave she reaps our bounty

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Homeworld

The Warden system is a series of penal colony hive planets in the same system and the Mechanicus Forgeworld Sanson. This system is located on the border of the Segmentum Obscurus and the Ultima Segmentum. There are four penal planets in the system with the chapter's fortress monastery located on Warden IV, the larges of the worlds. Prisoners from all over the Empire, normally the most brutal and insidious ones are sent to these four colonies on the fringe of Imperial space to serve hard labor to provide essential resources to the little known and well-hidden forgeworld Sanson. The Warden penal colonies do not segregate prisoners by gender and because of this there is a high number of children born each year. Prisoners have a very high mortality rate on these worlds and establishing family networks is forbidden.

All children born on the Warden planets are taken from their parents to and Imperial run labor and re-education camps on the 5th moon of Warden IV. Here they are raised in Imperial dogma are place into house based on demonstrated skills or adeptness for learning, that specialize in different fields for eventual indentured servitude for the Empire. These children are given little to no formal education and literally have imperial beliefs and dogma beaten into them from a very early age. Because of the conditions, like the penal worlds of the Warden System, their is a high mortality rate for these children but there always seems to be a fresh and growing number of them brought in. The Benedictors (Imperial overseers from various organizations to include the Ecclesiarchy) in charge of these houses ensure the youths are taught they are the products of seditious and heretical people and so their very lives must be lived in the struggle for redemption because they are a living breathing offense to the Empire. They are indoctrinated from birth that only in service and death for the Emperor will they find redemption. Because of their location on the penal planets, the Death Dealers often act in support of the Planetary Governors to maintain a modicum of order and control.

Chapter Creation

In the wake of the War of the Beast the High Lords decreed a new founding of Marines. These chapters were intended to be created specifically to stand guard against future Ork "Waaaghs". The full nature of this founding has been lost to time and missing or lost records within the Imperium. The only other chapter known in official records are the Marines Malevolent. The Executioners were selected to provide the cadre of initial leaders of the Chapter. Veteran Sargent Brother Marrow Wormwood of the chapters 1st Veteran Company, was chosen to lead this cadre and eventually given the honor of becoming the first Chapter Master of the Hangmen.

The Warden system was to be the perfect fit for a new home region for this chapter. The high number of potential recruits from the doomed children of the Warden Penal planets combined with the solid logistical support of a forgeworld in a nearby system made for and excellent recruitment and logistical scenario. The imperial indoctrination of the orphans increased their potential as neophytes, making it simpler to indoctrinate them and create a Chapter dedicated to enforcing the Emperors will on the empire. The isolated nature of this sector of Imperial Space also played well into the hereditary desires of the Chapter to maintain autonomy and isolation from larger regions of the Imperium. They would establish there fortress Monastery in isolated and near impossible to reach peaks of the Kilreign mountains on Warden IV. Only accessible by air and heavily fortified and defensible. The monastery has over 100 levels built into the mountain range over the millennia. Few battle brothers outside of the Chaplains and Librarians, know the full depth and breadth of this facility.

The Hangmen, like their brother founding chapter are known for their aggressive and destructive style of warfare. The first Chapter Master Verial Wormwood instilled in all the brothers of this chapter the tenants of the Executioners combat philosophy. The corps nature of their belief system is total unrelenting warfare. It is simply more honorable to lose and entire company of brothers than accept defeat on the battlefield. The Death Dealers have been quick to attack and destroy Imperial forces that showed a lack of honor by retreating from their posts, even if their circumstances were dire. To this end the Death Dealers have nearly caused their own doom on several occasions, for their simple refusals to withdraw from the battlefield. In every occasion to date they have been able to turn the tide by bringing in more firepower and the dogged determination and refusal to break.

Because of their connections to the Warden Penal planets including their Fortress Monastery on Warden IV it is believed by the chapter that Imperial tarot named them the Hangmen to principally be a reminder to the Marines of their humble origins as children of the Empire's worst undesirables, gamblers, murderers, thieves and cutthroats. A symbol of their ascension to becoming the Emperor's will made manifest and finally as a warning to all that would dare stand against the Emperor's will that they are the instrument of his wrath and shall only find his final mercy in their death. Their colors are black and white to show their constant search for redemption and honor and purity of a death in the service of the Emperor.

Like many of their Brother Chapters, the Hangmen, revere and honor their Primarch, the principle difference is the Hangmen do not accept that Rogal Dorn is dead. The Hangmen believe that Dorn did survive his assault on the Sword of Sacrilege. After the "Death of their Primarch Rogal Dorn" at the hands of the Iron Warriors, the Inquisition intercepted vague encrypted transmissions from Alpha Legion Operators and Iron Warrior leaders about the capture of the Praetorian of Terra. Soon after their chapters travels into the Ghoul Stars,the Hangmen found a derelict Inquisition ship, all on board had died to some unknown cause, including the Inquisitor. The Death Dealers salvaged all remaining tech, data and logs. Among the data files and records the Hangmen found the intercepted transmissions. It was from that moment they refused to accept Dorn's death. The chapter now believes Dorn had actually been captured by the Iron Warriors and not killed. Their theory is the level of hatred and animosity that Perturabo had for Dorn, he would want Dorn to suffer and not meet such a simple fate as death.

The Hangmen became obsessed with any and all clues that lead to any information about his possible survival and location. Obsessed to the point that the Lord Execution re-designated the 1^st company as the Hangmen and made it their sole purpose to doggedly search for any and all information. While the Hangmen as a chapter do not actively crusade for the sole purpose of finding their Primarch, their first company known as the Hangmen, do.

The Hangmen active hunt of the Iron Warrior war-bands, has driven them to the brink of destruction on more than one occasion. Their chaplains, specifically those attached to the first company, have become master interrogators and have been known to break the will of even the most zealot worshiper of Chaos. There are currently dozens of Iron Warrior and cultist prisoners in the lower decks of the Hangmens Emperor Class Battleship "The Soul Harvester" undergoing intense daily interrogation. Because of their beliefs that Dorn is alive, the Hangmen have been willing aid the Inquisition in whatever operations they request assistance for in exchange for resources and information on any possible leads or information about the Iron Warriors warbands whereabouts. The Hangmen and more specifically their Death Dealers have been know on a few occasions, to abruptly leave a conflict with no warning to follow a lead on the Iron Warriors or Dorn. To other Imperial forces fighting, no information or reason was ever given and this has caused strained relationships with a few other chapters and some leaders within the Imperial Guard.

The brothers eventually presented their findings to the other sons of Dorn and constantly pressed their brethren to aid in this call but none have heeded their request. The Intelligence they have gathered over the millennia leads them to believe the Alpha Legion had concocted some plot to capture Dorn and turn him over to the Iron Warriors, or helped to create a trap for him. They have sent several small crusade and infiltration forces into the eye to look for him of the dozens sent over the last 9000 years only one recently returned with possible news of their Primarch.

The Hangmen dont actively participate in the feast of blades. They believe the feast traditions center around being a memorial to their Primarch and since they refuse to accept his death the do not send a champion to the tournament. A chapter representative is always sent to show solidarity with the other sons of Dorn but his is also responsible for providing them updates on what the Hangmen have found and try to suede others to join their quest. They do and have answered the last wall protocol when it is called.

They believe it is their divine inspired tasking from the Emperor Himself to find and restore Rogal Dorn to his rightful place at the head of his sons and Praetor of Terra. In this task they have almost complete tunnel vision. Like other Sons of Dorn they revere him as the greatest of the Emperors Loyal sons and have on occasion even chastised the Ultra Marines and their successors because they believe it was Robute Guillimans narrow vision and fear that broke the legions and weekend the empire. This strong opinion has led to several heated confrontations with the Ultramarines and their successors to the point that both factions have on occasion, refused to stand by each others side in battle.

The Rise of Charon

In M41.981-M41.983 the Hangmen where unknowingly infiltrated by members of the Alpha Legion. These Alpha Legion members knew of a stronghold of a group of Iron Warriors in the Segmentum Obscuris. They planted the information conveniently when the Hangmen where the only ones capable of reacting that this Warband was said to have been involved in the Battle of the Sword of Sacrilege. In their traditional fashion they committed their entire chapter to this effort. It was not long before they found the Iron Warriors stronghold and began their assault. There attacks, wave after wave were repelled or destroyed. Much of this was due to sabotage by the Alpha Legion infiltrators, which included interfering with any and all communications outside of the Hangmens fleet. Their agenda was to critical weaken the Hangmen and aid the Iron Warriors in replacing them in their own ranks. By the time the Alpha Legion infiltrators and Iron Warriors were done, fewer than 200 Marines from the Hangmen remained. The Iron Warriors launched a risky counter offensive to take the Flagship, the Soul Harvester. It was during this ill-fated battle that the final 200 brothers of the Hangmen realized they had been infiltrated and betrayed by and Alpha Legion infiltrator Squad.

Most of the Chapters veterans and leadership had been killed during the fighting except for Chaplain Charon. Charon successfully sought out and purged the Alpha Legion Infiltrators while simultaneously organizing a counter offensive destroying and or capturing all of the remaining Iron Warrior forces. Charon's merciless purge and dogged defense earned him the vote of all the remaining battle brothers to be elevated to the rank of Chapter Master. Charon set upon the seemingly overwhelming task of rebuilding his chapter from the brinks of destruction. Because of the Alpha Legions successful infiltration the Hangmen have become extremely paranoid of any and all possible taints or infiltration. The Hangmen are merciless in their persecution of any brother deemed a possible threat. It has become the culture of the chapter that any brother accused or investigated, willing submits himself for purification (ritualized execution where the geneseed is harvested completely intact and ritually cleansed).

After the recent clashes with the Alpha Legion, The Hangmen have had to expand their operational tactics and have begun the process of becoming experts in counter espionage operations. Their obsessive crusade to find any and all leads to the whereabouts of their Primarch, have put them firmly in the sights of several Alpha Legion cells. These recent conflicts with Alpha Legion, combined with numerous other attempts by the Alpha Legion to infiltrate the chapter have led The Hangmen to become somewhat paranoid. They put all brothers through rigorous and regular geneseed testing. To date they have not infiltrated again, but have caught and interrogated several Alpha Legion Marines who have tried.

Upon the fall of Cadia and Guilliman's announcement of the Indominus Crusade and the creation of Primaris Marines, Charon seized the opportunity to finish rebuilding his chapter. Charon volunteered every brother in the Hangmen to undergo the Primaris conversions as well as receive a full complement of Primaris replacements to bring his chapter back to full strength. All new Primaris Marines have undergone a rigid physco-indoctrination into the Hangmen and are carefully monitored by the chapters Chaplains.

Organization

The Hangmen are no longer codex compliant, under the leadership of Charon they have re-organized into five complete self-sufficient battle forces known a Reaper Battalions. The 1^st Battalion is essentially the first company re-designated and augmented and they have retained the name and tasking as the Death Dealers. Each Battalion is fully equipped with all forms of vehicles and armaments available to the chapter. Additionally Charon reconstituted the Chaplain and Apothecary corps by merging their disciplines. By creating these new positions and increasing their numbers within the chapter he also gave them the formal additional duties of acting as principle interrogators within the battalions. This allows the Chapter a more self-sufficient force structure that constantly scours their forces for any possible infiltration or hint of chaotic taint.

The Death Dealers are the most autonomous element within the chapter, so much so that for nearly 10000 years the Imperium as a whole thought they were a separate chapter and often sent them their own supply and equipment shipments. This benefited both the Hangmen and the Death Dealers over this period. This mistaken identity issue allowed them by virtue of Imperial bureaucratic breakdown, access to more resources than a standard chapter and allowed them to stockpile many of these resources.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Bloodwraith

[Bloodwraith]

Creation of the Decons “A deal with the Devil”

Upon the end of the Astropath War in 888.M32, a disenfranchised group of Inquisitors from the Ordo Malleus brokered a long standing agreement and alliance with the leadership of the Forgeworld Sanson and Grand Master of Assassins from the Culexus temple. The ADMECH of Sanson saw an advantage in aligning with these Inquisitors, in exchange for resources and support the Inquisitors agreed to turn over all new or rare technological findings to them. Additionally the conclave brokered a secret deal with the Grand Master of Assassins the details of the ++++ADMINISTRATIVELY DELETED++++ the Grand Master reluctantly agreed, conceding the new venture would be allowed to recruit from those untouchables rejected for service in the Culexus Temple.

Frustrated with how the fractured nature of the Inquisition, and the constant struggle for power and resources, permitted the rise of Daemonic and Heretical occurrences, this conclave believed these new occurrences were weakening the Imperium from within, at the very moment the War of the Beast tested the Imperium's strength. The Inquisitors,together with the Tech-Priests of Sanson, began developing concepts and gathering resources to create their own arm for enforcing the Emperors will. The Inquisition had been tracking an increase in number and occurrence of untouchables, a disturbing mutation within the human genome which could even goes as far as to create pariahs. They as a whole had been struggling to censor the sheer number of these new untouchables, that an entire element of the Inquisition was dedicated to pacifying any large scale release of information or knowledge of these "soulless" beings in their midst. Additional measures such as +++DELETED FROM IMPERIAL RECORDS+++

Together radicals within these organizations came together and formed a conclave discussed ways in which to weaponize these blanks and use them to their own benefit; much like the Assassinorium and the Sisters of Silence had been able to do. When the conclaves decide that marines of this type would be invaluable as a force at their disposal, preparations were made to support the experiments. The warden system seemed a perfect isolated location to perform this operation but even with the conclaves vast resources creating a chapter of pariahs would be nearly impossible because of numbers and availability and surely would not go unnoticed. The members of the Ordo Malleius started diverting small numbers of male blanks to this planet. This practice continues to this day. The blanks selected were then put through rigorous testing, where the ADMECH representatives and Inquisitors realized and categorized different power levels among the blanks based on their ability to affect both normal humans and psykers alike.

Needing a chapter of Marines to serve as hosts of this project and realizing that any existing Inquisition aligned chapter would draw attention to the conclave that they did not want, A member of the conclave stepped forward with a possible candidate chapter. Inquisitor Heliex had been working with a relatively young chapter of marines, sons of Rogal Dorn, Known as the Death Dealers. He had been helping them on their self-imposed crusade to find their Primarch after they turned over the data they had recovered from a derelict inquisition ship. This chapter had already divided their assets into a unique fighting structure and the 1^st company of this chapter was perfect for this experiment. Heliex contacted Chapter Master Wormwood and the deal was struck. If the conclave could successfully create these Blank Marines they would be placed in the first company and used sparingly and secretly.

Wormwood decreed that because of the very nature of their abilities and the as yet still unknown full potential affects they may have, no more than 10 pariah marines would exist at a time and never fielded in numbers greater than 4. They would have their own vessel within the fleet and be overseen by a specially trained Chaplain who would be known as a Deacon. Over time the Chapter taught it more efficient for these marines to learn many of the Chaplaincy skills and eventually became their own hierarchy within the Chapter and assumed the title of Deacons that was once used by the first chaplains that taught them millennia ago. Additionally Wormwood ensured that the chapter learned how to create these specialized marines on their own, while relatively the same process as creating any other marine, there was still some special +++DELETED FROM RECORDS+++ to create these marines. Over the millennia the conclave and their hidden influences began to wither but for some reason perhaps out of simple Imperial systematic habit, the shipments of blank candidates continued.

Actual production of marines actually began around the time of 6th founding but these marines were largely experiments. By the time of the 7th founding the conclave had created several suitable and sustainable pools of candidates to create these special marines.

Null Ratings

Extending below the assigned category of Rho, for normal humans, the twenty-four point Assignment scale classifies specific levels of psychic-inactivity. While not as serious a threat as unchecked psykers, these individuals exhibit calming and negative effects upon the Warp.

- Sigma // Tau: Psionically-dense individuals who are oblivious to warp fluctuations and manifestations of psychic talent. (lowest grade of blank)

- Upsilon // Phi // Chi // Psi: Subjects with varying degrees of immunity to psyker powers. (common power level of blanks used in the Chapter)

- Omega: Usually referred to as Untouchables, Pariahs, or True Blanks. These individuals are so inert in the Warp as to actually exhibit negative psychic influence upon others. Primarily manifested as a small region of "blankness" surrounding the individual, it is impossible for psychic powers or warp creatures to penetrate this space.

Those at an Upsilon and Omega level of psi-negativity can easily be distinguished by others, and it is these blanks that make the strongest candidates. Special training is now the norm within the chapter for the Deacons (Anti Psyker Librarian equivalent). In this training they actually learn how to control the intensity of their aura and the area it can expand to potentially reaching their enemies and directly negatively affecting them.

"All grandeur, all power, all subordination to authority rests on the Hangman: he is the horror and the bond of human association. Remove this incomprehensible agent from the world and at that very moment order gives way to chaos, thrones topple and society disappears."

Edited June 30, 2017 by Bloodwraith

[Kelborn]

Father and son?

Cool. My little 13 month son is already enjoying the art of Wrath of Magnus. Hopefully I can turn him I to Warhammer as well. ;)

 

And thanks for clarifying about the Dark Odyssey.

[Bloodwraith]

@Kelborn....lol.  My Son is 16 and been doing Warhammer 40K with me since he was 8. So this is a true joint project.  We have about half a true company of Blood Wraiths done.  Now I am building a battle force of Hangmen and Death Dealers and he is building Brotherhood of Osiris (using Thousand Sons minis.)

[Kelborn]

Sounds good. :)

Of course he is too young right now. ;)

Glad that you both share the same hobby. Excited to see more of it.

[Bloodwraith]

revisions added.

Edited June 14, 2017 by Bloodwraith

[Bloodwraith]

Several major edits made to their I.A. including geneseed shift.

[deathspectersgt7]

Ah so you are the creator of the Death Dealers . Like the Chapter pads. 

[Bloodwraith]

Thank you, he just finished them, so it will be a few weeks before they are delivered and I can represent them on my mini's. I will upload the color scheme tomorrow. 

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Looks good, but why is the Salamanders successor Chapter named "Evil Devil" or "Evil Demon" in the pre-Gothic language of Japanese? Have they turned renegade- even turned to Chaos?

[Bloodwraith]

It is also the word for Devils, it has to do with their home-world, which will all be explained in their I.A.....additionally its also the word for Devil which is what it means to them. Name maybe tweaked to Akuma Hanta.

[NightrawenII]

Beware, in C&C I don't hold back. But since you are already mature adult, I would say you are able to take it and don't throw fits as some guys often do.

 

 

Founding: 7th

 

Date: 077M36

This is obviously wrong.

21st Founding was prior to M.36.

 

Conjecture: The 7th was most likely somewhere around M.34 which would place it in age of The Forging.

Non-Conjecture: No DA successor was created during The Forging.

 

Prisoners from all over the Empire, normally the most brutal and insidious ones are sent to these four colonies on the fringe of Imperial space to serve hard labor to provide essential resources to the little known and well-hidden forgeworld Sanson.

In the Imperium, punishment for crime is death. Only when the Imperial officials feels lenient and merciful (they sometimes do) the sentence is changed to penitence, which is nice term for "death delayed".

 

Second, this is overstatement. Why would Imperium waste its ships, time and energy to ship criminals to some Emperor-forgotten world?

It would be sector's worth of criminals at best.

 

 

The Warden penal colonies do not segregate prisoners by gender and because of this there is a high number of children born each year. Prisoners have a very low mortality rate on these worlds and establishing family networks is forbidden.

This is nonsense.

It's penal colony in pseudo-Third Reich, not rose garden. People would be dying left, right and center even before they made planet-fall.

 

All children born on the Warden planets are taken from their parents to and Imperial run Schola Progenium on the 5th moon of Warden IV.

That's not how the Schola Progenium work. So, why?

The High Lords granted the request and by their decree this same conclave of representatives would directly oversee the creation and organization of these new chapters.

Why would High Lords of Terra hand over several Chapters of Space Marines to some questionable conclave?

 

The ecclesiarchy indoctrination of the potential neophyte sources from the various Schola’s that were already in existence also made it simpler to create a Chapter dedicated to enforcing the Emperors will on the empire.

The Adeptus Astartes have their own cults, so any indoctrination by Ministorum would be perceived as superfluous at best, annoying at worst.

 

The honor of naming the chapter that would normally fall to the Imperial tarot but the conclave agreed to allow the original cadre and now first Chapter Master Nigel Malta.

Why?

 

 

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Too many "why?" I'm afraid. When you are breaking away from established fact, theme or reason you should provide at least elemental explanation as to why, otherwise it feels deliberate and forced, which in turn break suspension of disbelief of your reader.

 

 

~ NighrawenII

[Bjorn Firewalker]

It is also the word for Devils, it has to do with their home-world, which will all be explained in their I.A.....additionally its also the word for Devil which is what it means to them. Name maybe tweaked to Akuma Hanta.

If you mean to name the Salamanders successor "Devil Hunter", please note the word "hanta" is obviously a transliteration of the English word "hunter". You might as well use the English word in that case.

 

I tried finding the original Japanese term for "hunter", but the online dictionaries were NOT helpful, transliterating the English words for "hunt" and "stalk" instead of providing the Japanese words, the katakana (what children would use) instead of the kanji (what an educated adult would use).

[Bloodwraith]

 

 

This is obviously wrong.

21st Founding was prior to M.36.

 

Conjecture: The 7th was most likely somewhere around M.34 which would place it in age of The Forging.

Non-Conjecture: No DA successor was created during The Forging.

Founding Corrected.  As far as founding goes, what is your reference for no Dark Angels successors were created during the 7th founding? I used search and google-fu and found no references that stated that.  Would just like to know where it is written. They were originally IF successor but culture wise (which is still in development) i think they will fit better as a DA successor.

 

 

In the Imperium, punishment for crime is death. Only when the Imperial officials feels lenient and merciful (they sometimes do) the sentence is changed to penitence, which is nice term for "death delayed".

 

Second, this is overstatement. Why would Imperium waste its ships, time and energy to ship criminals to some Emperor-forgotten world?

It would be sector's worth of criminals at best.

 

 

 

Ok...not exactly there are plenty of references to penal worlds in fact penal legions for the Imperial Guard are formed from the Penal Worlds so they must be delivered there. I can change it from "all over the Empire to the surrounding sectors" but given the existence of penal worlds the rest is plausible.  I also addressed the mortality rate.  No It was not in great detail but these are living documents and their will be additions to all of these I.A.'s as the story continues.  I know it is not a canon site but here is one such reference. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Penal_Legion

 

 

 

That's not how the Schola Progenium work. So, why?

 

Actually Schola Progenium are run by the Ecclesiarchy and my reference to them and their use is because of the no children decree on these worlds and high mortality rate of the adults, the children are are by deed, decree and by natural occurrence, orphans.  They are taken to this Schola for just those reasons. Again not official canon itself but here is the link: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Schola_Progenium The imperial Guard, the Ecclesiarchy and even the Inquisition recruit from the Schola's. And it is not unheard of, even going back to the crusades for Marines to be recruited from schola's, penal worlds or criminals.

 

 

 

Why would High Lords of Terra hand over several Chapters of Space Marines to some questionable conclave?

 

This will be fluffed out in the Dark Odyssey story that we are still writing so it will be explained in a separate post that will link to all the I.A.'s when they are done.

 

 

 

The Adeptus Astartes have their own cults, so any indoctrination by Ministorum would be perceived as superfluous at best, annoying at worst.

 

This obviously needs to be re-written a little if you took it that way.  They are not educated by the Ecclesiarchy as Neophytes, that is the Chapter cult (although the chapter cults philosophies on some issues will be similar). The fact that they are already indoctrinated into Imperial Dogma makes them "quicker" students of the chapter indoctrination's.  I will look at and re-tweak that verbiage. 

 

 

 

The honor of naming the chapter that would normally fall to the Imperial tarot but the conclave agreed to allow the original cadre and now first Chapter Master Nigel Malta.

Why?

 

Admittedly this was weak, I will either go into more depth on this or just hand it over to the Imperial Tarrot.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Bloodwraith

[Bloodwraith]

 

 you mean to name the Salamanders successor "Devil Hunter", please note the word "hanta" is obviously a transliteration of the English word "hunter". You might as well use the English word in that case.

 

I tried finding the original Japanese term for "hunter", but the online dictionaries were NOT helpful, transliterating the English words for "hunt" and "stalk" instead of providing the Japanese words, the katakana (what children would use) instead of the kanji (what an educated adult would use).

 

Well I work with a naturalized Japanese American and asked him what to use, he did not go into the linguistic specifics of why Hanta but he assured me that Akuma Hanta would be correct in conversation if referencing the term Devil Hunters. He is a native speaker and I have zero background in the Japanese language so I am taking him at his word. I will gladly ask him today at work for some more specifics of why its appropriate, but that Chapter is not even in full I.A. development yet so not really a focus.  I am principally focusing on these guys, The Hangmen and the draft for the Dark Odyssey story.  The Brotherhood of Osiris and Blood Wraiths well be increased over time.  After we get the Dark Odyssey on the forum, we will then likely do the I.A.'s for The Steel Dawn, The Akuma Hanta and re-visit the Emperors Tears I.A. remember these I.A.'s are meant to be branch offs/tie ins to the short story we are writing.

[NightrawenII]

Founding Corrected.  As far as founding goes, what is your reference for no Dark Angels successors were created during the 7th founding? I used search and google-fu and found no references that stated that.  Would just like to know where it is written. They were originally IF successor but culture wise (which is still in development) i think they will fit better as a DA successor.

No DA Successor for The Forging (circa M.33 to end of M.34)  - Codex: Dark Angels 6th edition.

 

Actually Schola Progenium are run by the Ecclesiarchy and my reference to them and their use is because of the no children decree on these worlds and high mortality rate of the adults, the children are are by deed, decree and by natural occurrence, orphans.  They are taken to this Schola for just those reasons. Again not official canon itself but here is the link: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Schola_Progenium The imperial Guard, the Ecclesiarchy and even the Inquisition recruit from the Schola's. And it is not unheard of, even going back to the crusades for Marines to be recruited from schola's, penal worlds or criminals.

The progena are orphans of highborn imperial citizens. You have the exact opposite here.

 

Before you ask, Codex: Militarum Tempestus.

 

 

~ NightrawenII

[Bloodwraith]

 

Bloodwraith, on 13 Dec 2016 - 8:26 PM, said:

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Founding Corrected.  As far as founding goes, what is your reference for no Dark Angels successors were created during the 7th founding? I used search and google-fu and found no references that stated that.  Would just like to know where it is written. They were originally IF successor but culture wise (which is still in development) i think they will fit better as a DA successor.

No DA Successor for The Forging (circa M.33 to end of M.34)  - Codex: Dark Angels 6th edition.

 

Bloodwraith, on 13 Dec 2016 - 8:26 PM, said:http://bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_images/carbon_red/snapback.png

Actually Schola Progenium are run by the Ecclesiarchy and my reference to them and their use is because of the no children decree on these worlds and high mortality rate of the adults, the children are are by deed, decree and by natural occurrence, orphans.  They are taken to this Schola for just those reasons. Again not official canon itself but here is the link: http://wh40k.lexican...chola_Progenium The imperial Guard, the Ecclesiarchy and even the Inquisition recruit from the Schola's. And it is not unheard of, even going back to the crusades for Marines to be recruited from schola's, penal worlds or criminals.

The progena are orphans of highborn imperial citizens. You have the exact opposite here.

 

Before you ask, Codex: Militarum Tempestus.

 

 

~ NightrawenII

 

Noted, I will tweak the schola progenium portion and will have to do some re-thinking on the 7th founding issue.  Perhaps they can be from an earlier founding and used as a "seasoned Chapter" to aid in the Dark Odyssey.

[Bloodwraith]

Major Edits done to the story. to be more in compliance with established lore. Thanks to NightrawenII for the info.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Why would prisoners have a very low mortality rate? Do the prisoners form gangs within the prison, so they can protect each other and be protected in turn? Are the guards especially diligent, breaking up fights before they devolve into riots- an extremely out-of-character act for prison guards? Are the prisoners especially hardy and difficult to kill, with intimidating presences that deter those who'd normally challenge them to prove the challenger's strength, i.e., OTHER PRISONERS? Or is it because the forge world of Sanson is nearby?

The Pariahs at the hidden Culexus temple make the prisoners suffer from depression, unmotivated to commit violence against one another. Hell, in 'Codex: Necrons' (3rd Edition), a Culexus temple's presence disturbs Eldar as their ships approach the planet it's on, so we know a Pariah's aura can be felt from great distances.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Bjorn Firewalker

[Bloodwraith]

Its a typo, meant high mortality rate, the Hidden Culexus temple is on a different planet in these sectors, unnamed and unspecified location. Although the presence of the Hangmen Chapter in this region could cause that affect as well.....hmmmmm I will look into that angle.

Edited December 14, 2016 by Bloodwraith

[Bjorn Firewalker]

I wonder if the Culexus assassins are allowed to use the Warden System's prisoners for Crypteia?

[Bloodwraith]

Again, interesting Idea.  Let me explore more information, might be a good addition to the Hangmen.

[Bloodwraith]

After a few months off due to RL obligations I have re-edited and added some new fluff.

[High Marshal Bohemond]

I love the paint scheme and the chapter logo, especially the ones on Pop Goes the Monkey! Stellar work. For the IA, interesting concept .

Edited June 14, 2017 by High Marshal Bohemond

[Bloodwraith]

Some lore updates and editing along with some collaborating with a friend. More to come.