General01L Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Hi all this is my first time posting here. I currently own Marines, Orks and Cult/Skitarii. However I have always loved the idea of Sisters of Battle, though since they didn't get new plastics right now but at least printed rules I am looking to start a small army to use as allies for my Cult/Skitarii. 9/10 times I play against a good friend of mine who is a chaos player(bloody heretic) and we just play casual/fluff so I am not looking for tournament advice. So far I pre-ordered the following Sisters from GW: -Sisters of Battle Canoness(old) 2X -Battle Sisters Squad Upgrade 3X -Dominion Squad 1X That would put me at 22 Sister models for now, so HQ and two 10 Sisters squads. I am painting two of my unpainted space marine rhino's to be used for the Sisters instead. So what else would you guys recommend me to get for the Sisters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedibear Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 As many special weapons you can get, in lots of 4. Dominions and Retributors can carry 4 of Special/Heavy Weapons, respectively. The rest of the squads can carry 2 of each, which evenly divides 4. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4590931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The Dominion squad from GW is terrible since it mixes weapons. You'll want melta spam for Dominions. You'll want as many Immolator kits as you can afford. You'll want to order singles of the melta Sister, as many as you can afford. You want at least 1 x4 melta Dominions outflanking in an Immolator, 2 is better, 3 is divine. BSS squads in Rhinos is what I use for the anvil that supports my Dominions hammer. Immolators won't do you wrong here either, though, if you go MSU like I do. Retributors would come next in order of need-to-buy. Multimelta or Heavy Bolter, preferably x4 of each. These can also be used in Command squads if you like. Seraphim are something I use, but some don't. DSing hand flamers for objective camping infantry, DSing inferno pistols for chasing armour or assassinating vulnerable characters. Exorcists are cool, but not vital. Priests are force multipliers, add to liking. Battle Conclaves have an assault role if you want to march up the field and take the fight to the heretics face. If you get Repentia, screen them with a Conclave and add a priest or two (or three.) Penitent Engines can wait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4590934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General01L Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 I did indeed read/see battle reports that include LOTS of melta weapons. Though I wonder if these are maybe overkill when combined with Cult/Skitarii, I mean we get haywire and grav spam so tanks/monsters are not really an issue. If anything my Cult/Skitarii suffer from low model count, not durable in CC and slow. We always play objective games which is why I want to run at least two 10 Sister squads in rhino's so they could try to get up the field and capture objectives quickly as opposed to my snail Cult units. I did really doubt between buying the repentia squad or not, even my girlfriend liked their models a lot but since I am not sure what route to go with Sisters I decided to wait with ordering more than 22 Sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4590955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 There's no kill like overkill. Outflanking melta dominions is a signature SoB tactic. It creates a serious threat at the board edge, channeling enemy forces into the middle area where your on-table fire support can shoot at them. You could use any kind of weapon spam, but melta threatens all comers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4590972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The trick with melee sisters is to use priests with the litanies of faith. Allows them to just say what hymn they want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4590973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The trick with melee sisters is to use priests with the litanies of faith. Allows them to just say what hymn they want. . . . you always get to pick which hymn you use. The Litanies just make you automatically pass the Ld test to use War Hymns. Anyway, transports, meltaguns, heavy flamers, and exorcists. Those are in basically all my lists, though I don't do allies, so I'm not sure how Sisters work with the Mechanicum (especially since the Mechanicum and the Ecclesiarchy are not exactly on friendly terms). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General01L Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well since I 9/10 fight against Chaos the reason is that the Mechanicum/forge world sends out a distress signal regarding heretics. Sisters love to burn heretics if I got my lore right. Does anyone use the Penitent Engines? And how easy/hard is it to build their model? I myself love any kind of walking tank so I am considering getting one or two just for the fun of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well since I 9/10 fight against Chaos the reason is that the Mechanicum/forge world sends out a distress signal regarding heretics. Sisters love to burn heretics if I got my lore right. Does anyone use the Penitent Engines? And how easy/hard is it to build their model? I myself love any kind of walking tank so I am considering getting one or two just for the fun of it. Sure, the Sisters will help out. I was just saying that traditionally the Ecclesiarchy doesn't get along with the Mechanicus. Penitent engines are best run in units of three because of how easy they die as far as I know. The model is a bit of a pain to assemble, especially if you pin it together (and if you don't, like me, you should probably use about a gallon of super glue), plus it doesn't come with any instructions. Still, a really neat model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The trick with melee sisters is to use priests with the litanies of faith. Allows them to just say what hymn they want. . . . you always get to pick which hymn you use. The Litanies just make you automatically pass the Ld test to use War Hymns. Anyway, transports, meltaguns, heavy flamers, and exorcists. Those are in basically all my lists, though I don't do allies, so I'm not sure how Sisters work with the Mechanicum (especially since the Mechanicum and the Ecclesiarchy are not exactly on friendly terms). Yeah that's what I was saying You just aay: Reroll saves. You don't have to roll to see if you failed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well since I 9/10 fight against Chaos the reason is that the Mechanicum/forge world sends out a distress signal regarding heretics. Sisters love to burn heretics if I got my lore right. Does anyone use the Penitent Engines? And how easy/hard is it to build their model? I myself love any kind of walking tank so I am considering getting one or two just for the fun of it. Sure, the Sisters will help out. I was just saying that traditionally the Ecclesiarchy doesn't get along with the Mechanicus. Penitent engines are best run in units of three because of how easy they die as far as I know. The model is a bit of a pain to assemble, especially if you pin it together (and if you don't, like me, you should probably use about a gallon of super glue), plus it doesn't come with any instructions. Still, a really neat model. I've used e600 for mine, and they v stay together way better than with other super glue that being said, it takes 24 hours to cure. Penitent engines are interesting. You need some kind of distraction to let them get into combat, but once they do, they kill almost everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolia Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well since I 9/10 fight against Chaos the reason is that the Mechanicum/forge world sends out a distress signal regarding heretics. Sisters love to burn heretics if I got my lore right. Does anyone use the Penitent Engines? And how easy/hard is it to build their model? I myself love any kind of walking tank so I am considering getting one or two just for the fun of it. Sure, the Sisters will help out. I was just saying that traditionally the Ecclesiarchy doesn't get along with the Mechanicus. Penitent engines are best run in units of three because of how easy they die as far as I know. The model is a bit of a pain to assemble, especially if you pin it together (and if you don't, like me, you should probably use about a gallon of super glue), plus it doesn't come with any instructions. Still, a really neat model. I've used e600 for mine, and they v stay together way better than with other super glue that being said, it takes 24 hours to cure. Penitent engines are interesting. You need some kind of distraction to let them get into combat, but once they do, they kill almost everything. Indeed,and conversely, they are a good distraction themselves, because leaving them be is a serious threat later on. Basically, if you can threaten your opponent with both them and say dominions simultaneously,he'll have a tough choice to make to get out of being between a rock and hard place. Cover is your friend, and more immediate threats as stated before . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General01L Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Well lots of good information on here. Could use some positive thinking about Sisters. I mean most places right now are just spitting venom because of what is happening to Sisters right now so I was starting to consider cancelling my Sisters order. Also does anyone have any tips on how to paint Sisters icons on rhino's? I want to do the Order of our Martyred lady symbol but having trouble with painting it properly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 This is one of mine: Obviously I have no hard-lining advice to give, but I think I've got a pretty good handle on the OML symbol and the fleur. The OML symbol was drawn in lightly with a pencil. I used a 25mm base as a guide for the circle on top, realized afterward I could have used it for all the curves. Drew the skull symbol lightly in pencil and then filled the outline in with with paint, then coloured it in. The fleurs you may or may not like, but my method is super easy. Paint the horizontal line first, then draw a vertical line in the middle on the top and bottom, with the top one being about half again as long as the bottom one. Fatten up those vertical lines into shape, then add the "swoosh" marks last. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General01L Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Wow that rhino looks amazing! Good work on the symbols. I never thought of using bases for round symbols on stuff either XD Sounds like a great idea for painting symbols on my orks stompa. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I'll echo Warsmith Aznable's suggestion of using pencil to mark out the outline first. Just make sure you use the pencil lightly, otherwise the coat of paint will be scratched. Here's my Order's HQ Rhino (they're a sub faction of the Valorous Heart): Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328709-starting-with-sisters/#findComment-4591590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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