A Few Questions from one who hasn't Played Sisters in Years

[Nicodemus Doloroso]

Folks, I'm a lot out of the loop on what's being going on with sisters both on the table and in the webstore so I have a few questions now that I've been inspired by the new Codex: Imperial Agents to get serious about included some Sisters elements into my =][= force.

 

1. Uriah Jacobus -- What are peoples' experience with him? Is he worth the points? I like the idea of being able to include in my army a Ministorum Priest who has more than one wound and can lead a "battle conclave" (whatever the new formation is called) a little more credibly than a 1 wound guy. I'm thinking of converting my own using the temporarily re-released Arch Confessor Kyrinov model but at 20 meltabombs I want to make sure he's worth it (otherwise I won't hack off the Mace of Valaan in favour of a shotgun).

 

2. Immolators -- Am I imagining it or have there been recent shortages/disappearances of this model from the webstore? In other words, should I be snapping some up right now (i.e. "panic buy"), or am I okay to hold off? I see they're "pre-order" right now but they don't have the limited time only logo on them so I'm confused ...

 

Thanks!

[A.T.]

Jacobus has been used almost exclusively in 'blob' sisters armies - 20 sisters in one unit with at least one other priest using the automatic test-passing book. It has no punch, but with 5++ (and 3+/5++ rerollable in combat) it can slowly crawl up the table absorbing more fire than you might expect.

 

With the new book Jacobus could also lead a particularly large band of arcos/cultists/crusaders - though only the arcos would benefit from his presence in terms of the 5++ Act of Faith. He still grants counter-attack with his banner though.

 

 

The immolators were discontinued entirely a little over a year ago due to a lack of plastic canopies. The replacement apparently has a transparent resin canopy instead and has only just come back.

[Arkaniss]

Never used Uriah so I'm afraid I can't help there - but I just wanted to say in regard to the Immolator it should be back for good now. No mention of it being limited or made to order at all. So it's back and sticking around :) It is however a web store exclusive so you won't be seeing it in stores, but it's not as if GW stores have had piles of Sisters models on the shelf anyway...!

[Jacinda]

Jacobus is an excelent choice to join a close combat unit.  Unlike most melee centric character, he works best when refusing a challange :)  What Jacobus brings is noit so much what he can do but how much he can buff Battle Sisters.  I always pair him with another priest with Litanies of Faith.

 

Adepta Sororitas have a few viable close combat choices but the problem lies in actually getting them into to close combat when and where you want them.  The 12" Fearless and Counter Attack bubble helps with this, tho.

 

@AT .. >>" though only the arcos would benefit from his presence in terms of the 5++ Act of Faith."

Has this changed?  Currently the 5++ is from his Warlord trait and only effects models with Shield of Faith special rule which none of the Battle Conclave models have.

[Nicodemus Doloroso]

@A.T. - thanks. Never heard of clear resin but I'll roll with it!

 

I'm looking forward to adding some Immolators to my =][= army. I used to love Immolators back in my 3rd edition days as a Sisters of Battle player. Now that there is also a multimelta option, this will add some much-needed anti-tank punch to my =][= force. Up until now it was basically deep-striking Militarum Tempestus Scions with meltaguns, my godhammer LR, and acolytes shooting out of Chimera hatch with meltagun.

 

I'm a bit torn on Jacobus after your write-up ... but I think it would be a viable option to have available so Mace of Valaan --> The Redeemer it is! And I think I'm going to convert up a while mess of Arco Flagellants.

 

@Arkaniss - web exclusive doesn't bother me since shopping online is often more convenient for me anyway since I don't live anywhere near a GW store.

[A.T.]

@AT .. >>" though only the arcos would benefit from his presence in terms of the 5++ Act of Faith."

Has this changed?  Currently the 5++ is from his Warlord trait and only effects models with Shield of Faith special rule which none of the Battle Conclave models have.

The big priest formation (that lets you take 10 whole combined units - up to 100 arcos) - grants them all shield of faith. Which is pretty much useless for anything except arcos...

[grendal1989]

Unless you value adamantium will particularly highly.(I don't usually)

[Beams]

 

@AT .. >>" though only the arcos would benefit from his presence in terms of the 5++ Act of Faith."

 

Has this changed? Currently the 5++ is from his Warlord trait and only effects models with Shield of Faith special rule which none of the Battle Conclave models have.

The big priest formation (that lets you take 10 whole combined units - up to 100 arcos) - grants them all shield of faith. Which is pretty much useless for anything except arcos...

So, arcos actually get quite a buff fron this formation... They were pretty good before, but super squishy. Now, if done right they've got a reroll able 5++, which is close to a 4+, with an additional 5+ fnp in close combat. Do one priest with the litanies and Jacobus, and your looking at a surprisingly good unit. And you can get a massive blob of them unlike before. Throw in a few crusaders to take :cusss the first two turns and bam!

[Servant of Dante]

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

[Beams]

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Sadly he can't. But a separate priest can. And you can put a priest in an inq. Unit with a Damon host, for a permanently activated mace of vahlan.

[Jacinda]

 

@AT .. >>" though only the arcos would benefit from his presence in terms of the 5++ Act of Faith."

Has this changed?  Currently the 5++ is from his Warlord trait and only effects models with Shield of Faith special rule which none of the Battle Conclave models have.

The big priest formation (that lets you take 10 whole combined units - up to 100 arcos) - grants them all shield of faith. Which is pretty much useless for anything except arcos...

 

/slaps forehead

Of course!  I forgot about the new formations.

 

Thanks.

 

[eta]

<--- is a natural blond :blush:

[Nicodemus Doloroso]

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

 

Yeah, I know that ... I was just talking about using the Kyrinov model because I like it and REMOVING the Mace of Valan off his model and replacing it with a shotgun.

[Servant of Dante]

 

 

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Yeah, I know that ... I was just talking about using the Kyrinov model because I like it and REMOVING the Mace of Valan off his model and replacing it with a shotgun.

Ah, my bad :P

 

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Sadly he can't. But a separate priest can. And you can put a priest in an inq. Unit with a Damon host, for a permanently activated mace of vahlan.

Yeah. That's heresy. :P

[Beams]

 

 

 

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Yeah, I know that ... I was just talking about using the Kyrinov model because I like it and REMOVING the Mace of Valan off his model and replacing it with a shotgun.

Ah, my bad :P

 

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Sadly he can't. But a separate priest can. And you can put a priest in an inq. Unit with a Damon host, for a permanently activated mace of vahlan.

Yeah. That's heresy. :P

True... But if you kill the Damon host afterwards? Isn't it just like a delayed purging?

[CaptainHelion]

A radical suggestion if there ever were one. *Ollies over the daemonhost*

[Servant of Dante]

 

 

 

 

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Yeah, I know that ... I was just talking about using the Kyrinov model because I like it and REMOVING the Mace of Valan off his model and replacing it with a shotgun.

Ah, my bad :P

 

Jacobus can also buff Repentia.

 

Also, unless something has changed in the new codex (i maaaay have skimmed this thread this far) Jacobus is a special character and cannot take items from warhead lists, so no mace of Valan for him.

Sadly he can't. But a separate priest can. And you can put a priest in an inq. Unit with a Damon host, for a permanently activated mace of vahlan.

Yeah. That's heresy. :P

True... But if you kill the Damon host afterwards? Isn't it just like a delayed purging?

No compromise with the heretic!

 

*primes flamer*

[Knight of the Raven]

Pragmatism is the first step on the road to damnation.