A.T. Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 So if the rumours are true IA acoyltes are now coming in at 10pts per model with power armour and bolters, with access to flamers, meltaguns, and sororitas rhinos. A throwback to the dark days of the 3e rulebook codex perhaps, same cost save paying 10pts for their flamers - and objective secured if they are run alongside coteaz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 So if the rumours are true IA acoyltes are now coming in at 8pts per model with power armour and bolters, with access to flamers, meltaguns, and sororitas rhinos. A throwback to the dark days of the 3e rulebook codex perhaps, but cheap - especially if they no longer pay 10pts for their flamers - and objective secured if they are run alongside coteaz. See, I play Sisters of Battle. What it looks like you're suggesting is either using these acolyte rules to represent Sisters, or to supplement Sisters armies with acolytes. Flamers are only 5 points in the current codex. In any case, BS 3 Sisters is basically heresy as far as I'm concerned. And I don't play Allies regularly. And now I'll leave and let the people who actually want to have a constructive conversation talk . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4594970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are more than just bolters and power armour. It'd be ok if you were seeking an equivalent to some battlefield roles, but not a good substitute for Sisters themselves. The Acolyte armour upgrades were always woefully overpriced, I'd be inclined to use them as cheaper units in carapace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4594972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are more than just bolters and power armour. It'd be ok if you were seeking an equivalent to some battlefield roles, but not a good substitute for Sisters themselves. I was thinking along the lines of a throwback army list - the acolytes would be practically identical to the early 3e sisters, just cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are more than just bolters and power armour. It'd be ok if you were seeking an equivalent to some battlefield roles, but not a good substitute for Sisters themselves. I was thinking along the lines of a throwback army list - the acolytes would be practically identical to the early 3e sisters, just cheaper. But early 3E Sisters not really "classic" Sisters rules in my mind. Sisters were BS4 in 2E, and they have been BS4 since Witch Hunters. I consider BS3 Sisters un-fluffy and un-fun *shrug* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are more than just bolters and power armour. It'd be ok if you were seeking an equivalent to some battlefield roles, but not a good substitute for Sisters themselves. I was thinking along the lines of a throwback army list - the acolytes would be practically identical to the early 3e sisters, just cheaper. Sisters also used to be T4 in 2ed However, I agree BS 4 is how I see highly trained soldiers that sisters represent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are more than just bolters and power armour. It'd be ok if you were seeking an equivalent to some battlefield roles, but not a good substitute for Sisters themselves. I was thinking along the lines of a throwback army list - the acolytes would be practically identical to the early 3e sisters, just cheaper. Sisters also used to be T4 in 2ed However, I agree BS 4 is how I see highly trained soldiers that sisters represent. I know But BS4 has persisted into modern editions, so I still think it's a fair point to make. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 You could always call the Sister Noviates, sisters who have just passed their training but have not seen actual combat yet so they are not as experienced as a normal line soldier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 You could always call the Sister Noviates, sisters who have just passed their training but have not seen actual combat yet so they are not as experienced as a normal line soldier. Novices would be those who you are talking about (they are the ones training to be full Sisters). The time a Novice spends as a Novice would be a Novitiate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 That's a cool idea. Over all, I think I spent my excitement and will just wait for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Antaeus Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are typically (but not always) recruited from the Schola Progenium. I would argue nearly every teenage girl who crosses the threshold of a fortress-abbey has an excellent grasp of combat, even if their faith isn't as fully refined into a weapon as a sworn sister, it would not be unreasonable in times of emergency for them to take up bolter and power armor. Call it a trial by fire. Call them Unsworn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sisters are typically (but not always) recruited from the Schola Progenium. I would argue nearly every teenage girl who crosses the threshold of a fortress-abbey has an excellent grasp of combat, even if their faith isn't as fully refined into a weapon as a sworn sister, it would not be unreasonable in times of emergency for them to take up bolter and power armor. Call it a trial by fire. Call them Unsworn. I really like this concept. Sort of like all members are trained for combat but the main line sisters have a more extensive training regime and experience. The fluff mentions that even the Hospitalers have some combat training but again not as much as a line sister. I would make one change and give them carapace amour representing the fact that they are not fully trained and are being pressed in to service because of an emergency. So it's more of a "grab this vest and gun and get out there" sort of thing. I don't think they would have large stocks of power amour sitting around either for personal listed as "occasional/reserve combatants" so the reduced amour makes sense (still better then the average guardsmen though ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4595392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sisters are typically (but not always) recruited from the Schola Progenium. I would argue nearly every teenage girl who crosses the threshold of a fortress-abbey has an excellent grasp of combat, even if their faith isn't as fully refined into a weapon as a sworn sister, it would not be unreasonable in times of emergency for them to take up bolter and power armor. Call it a trial by fire. Call them Unsworn. I really like this concept. Sort of like all members are trained for combat but the main line sisters have a more extensive training regime and experience. The fluff mentions that even the Hospitalers have some combat training but again not as much as a line sister. I would make one change and give them carapace amour representing the fact that they are not fully trained and are being pressed in to service because of an emergency. So it's more of a "grab this vest and gun and get out there" sort of thing. I don't think they would have large stocks of power amour sitting around either for personal listed as "occasional/reserve combatants" so the reduced amour makes sense (still better then the average guardsmen though ) Full Sisters are ALWAYS from the Schola (I mean there might be maybe a couple exceptions in all of the Orders Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4596054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 IA Acolytes with Bolter and PA are ten points. Like the idea in this topic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4596543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sefiel Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 GreetingsI have every intention of running them with six Jokaero so that I can guaranteed upgrade them to 2+ armour save and (probably) rending.It really annoys me that you can't have skilled Acolytes, but I'll live with it.Perhaps service on the Black Ships has meant that their combat skills have degraded? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4596550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 After reading that part of the Codex, I think the Acolytes will be more suited to the Scions models I bought ages ago, although the idea of having some sisters counts as quite novel. Perhaps I could explain it away by saying an Inquisitor requested support from an Order and the Canoness suggested taking some of her best new recruits to prove themselves in battle... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4596707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I'm going to be using helmeted Scions for my Acolytes and just calling them Sister Initiates.:P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4596834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sefiel Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 HiTen now underway, plus nearly finished a Canoness who will be used as an Ordo Hereticus inquisitor. Some backstory created, too, which pleased me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328837-bs3-sororitas/#findComment-4597214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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