JeffTibbetts Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Wow... the ironstriders in that artwork are just ghastly... the pill headed bots though, the ones who's armaments I can see, seem to both have some kind of sniper rifle looking gun... I would speculate these might be something new coming in a future admech release that will also include cawl, but with how terrible the ironstriders look (the back one literally has arms... arms!) They could be space marines for all I can tell! Exactly. I had totally pegged the pill-heads as something new as well, but all bets are off now. I'm ignoring this art completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I'm still yet to get my book, does someone have an image of the full art that shows those are definitely ironstriders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I'm still yet to get my book, does someone have an image of the full art that shows those are definitely ironstriders? I don't have it, but allow me to crush your dreams... They're the ugliest, dumbest-looking Ironstriders I've ever seen. Only the Omnissiah could love those ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Found it.Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestBlade Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Magos = awesome. Everything else = nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGuy Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Don't know what you guys are complaining about. Our robot chickens look pretty much just like in that picture. I think the Ruststalkers to Cawls sides are just hideous! What did they do with their awesome leather masks? >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That Ironstrider in the background looks taller than the one in the foreground to me and the autocannons look different. I'm not saying I could do better, but I'm sure they could have produced a better picture than that. What is that in front of Cawl's face? It makes him look like a Platypus or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That ironstrider in the upper left looks like an onager and an Dragoon had an illicit heretical love child... and is that a rust stalker with a modern day assault rifle next to cawl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That Ironstrider in the background looks taller than the one in the foreground to me and the autocannons look different. I'm not saying I could do better, but I'm sure they could have produced a better picture than that. What is that in front of Cawl's face? It makes him look like a Platypus or something. The device in front of Cawl's face is listed in the white dwarf as a "Binharic Converter and Translator (binaric, high and low gothic)" As for a Platypus, Platypi are aggressive venomous furry aquatic monotremes that hunt with their eyes closed using electric sensors in their bills (now toothless but ancient ones had teeth) to sense prey, hatch from eggs and unlike most monotremes have managed to stave off extinction despite being surrounded by marsupials for millennia.. suitable for inspiration for an especially ancient Arch-Magos surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds.043 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The one in the foreground is still a mess, don't get me wrong, but it still resembles a balistarii. The ones in the background all just look so... bizarre... and rust stalkers don't have guns! They have swords and gas masks! Yeesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 That Ironstrider in the background looks taller than the one in the foreground to me and the autocannons look different. I'm not saying I could do better, but I'm sure they could have produced a better picture than that. What is that in front of Cawl's face? It makes him look like a Platypus or something. The device in front of Cawl's face is listed in the white dwarf as a "Binharic Converter and Translator (binaric, high and low gothic)" As for a Platypus, Platypi are aggressive venomous furry aquatic monotremes that hunt with their eyes closed using electric sensors in their bills (now toothless but ancient ones had teeth) to sense prey, hatch from eggs and unlike most monotremes have managed to stave off extinction despite being surrounded by marsupials for millennia.. suitable for inspiration for an especially ancient Arch-Magos surely. I suppose the comparison runs a bit deeper than I thought... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Wow...just noticed the perhaps ultimate cheese when browsing through FW goodness/secutarii. So long as a unit contains at least five models equipped with a Kyropatris field generator, all models in the unit may re-roll failed Armour saves of a 1. In addition, if the unit contains at least 10 models equipped with Kyropatris field generators then shooting attacks against them are reduced by -1 Str. Well...it explicitly states "all models in the unit", only depending on the number of field generators in the unit, not the model having a field generator. Yeah, so Carl can get rerollable 2+ armour, on top of his rerollable FnP and regenerating/dominus-repaired wounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchverr Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Wow...just noticed the perhaps ultimate cheese when browsing through FW goodness/secutarii. So long as a unit contains at least five models equipped with a Kyropatris field generator, all models in the unit may re-roll failed Armour saves of a 1. In addition, if the unit contains at least 10 models equipped with Kyropatris field generators then shooting attacks against them are reduced by -1 Str. Well...it explicitly states "all models in the unit", only depending on the number of field generators in the unit, not the model having a field generator. Yeah, so Carl can get rerollable 2+ armour, on top of his rerollable FnP and regenerating/dominus-repaired wounds... I need an admech version of this gif http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/07/laughter.gif Just for this, Stick him into a unit of the guys with haywire weapons and shields for added anti tank trolling/interesting fun. I am super tempted to do this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Wow...just noticed the perhaps ultimate cheese when browsing through FW goodness/secutarii. So long as a unit contains at least five models equipped with a Kyropatris field generator, all models in the unit may re-roll failed Armour saves of a 1. In addition, if the unit contains at least 10 models equipped with Kyropatris field generators then shooting attacks against them are reduced by -1 Str. Well...it explicitly states "all models in the unit", only depending on the number of field generators in the unit, not the model having a field generator. Yeah, so Carl can get rerollable 2+ armour, on top of his rerollable FnP and regenerating/dominus-repaired wounds... Just for this, Stick him into a unit of the guys with haywire weapons and shields for added anti tank trolling/interesting fun. I am super tempted to do this now. Oh great! Right when I start my kit bash of Victoria Miniatures female torsos/legs with my Secutarii Hoplites, Mitchverr here has to go and give them a unit name: "The Cawl Girls". (...don't hurt me!..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just for this, Stick him into a unit of the guys with haywire weapons and shields for added anti tank trolling/interesting fun. I am super tempted to do this now. Just because such a big and important guy could use an entourage, the shield guys would look great. The peltasts are better in almost every aspect other than looks though, especially at long ranged, cover/armour-ignoring anti infantry (which we lack, unlike AT). Carl has enough rerollable master-crafted haywire + dataspike to kill any non-superheavy in one charge, so the shield guys wouldn't do much besides shielding (even with defensive grenades). Only other use, give them the Mortispex relic to shoot down any flier short of a thunderhawk in one go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchverr Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just for this, Stick him into a unit of the guys with haywire weapons and shields for added anti tank trolling/interesting fun. I am super tempted to do this now. Just because such a big and important guy could use an entourage, the shield guys would look great. The peltasts are better in almost every aspect other than looks though, especially at long ranged, cover/armour-ignoring anti infantry (which we lack, unlike AT). Carl has enough rerollable master-crafted haywire + dataspike to kill any non-superheavy in one charge, so the shield guys wouldn't do much besides shielding (even with defensive grenades). Only other use, give them the Mortispex relic to shoot down any flier short of a thunderhawk in one go... Cawl however wants to get into close combat, which the hoplite guys are more okay with as iirc they have AP4 CC dont they? And have the decent 5++. Main reason i would go for it. Though if i ever use Cawl a significant part of my force would be cult mech so anti infantry is covered to a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Cawl however wants to get into close combat, which the hoplite guys are more okay with as iirc they have AP4 CC dont they? And have the decent 5++. Main reason i would go for it. S4 AP4 in CC, yes. But I see Carls role more on the "shoot the big stuff, mop up the remains in CC" role. He can singlehandedly beat up a lot of bad-armour models in CC, but few with AP2. Against 2+ or 3+ armour, killing as much as possible with peltast guns would be more useful. The hoplites' 5++ may be nice in CC, but chances are Carl will soak up most non-AP2 with his rerollable 2+ armour, and quite a bit of AP2 with 5++/5+/5+ and auto-regeneration. No need to sacrifice secutarii, rather have them keep up the generator number. As long as the -1S on shooting persists, the number of wounds on Carl will be significantly lower. Once he's in CC against hard units (like hammernators), there isn't that much difference between 5++ and less attacking models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 If only there was a way to give canticles to hoplites. They would benefit quite a bit from the strength bonus, electromancy , re rolls to hit, and cawls 4++ canticle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I think you can in the new Grand Convocation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I think you can in the new Grand Convocation... Neither Secutarii unit is an option for the Grand Convocation. Currently, they can only be taken in a Skitarii Maniple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedratsailor Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Unfortunetly the Hoplites and pelasts are not listed as viable units in the Grand Convocation. Only way would be if FW updated their experimental rules to be allowed since the formation has specific unit selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds.043 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I wonder if forgeworld's upcoming mechanicum vs Tau book is going to create an adeptus Titanicus faction that mixes cult mechanicus and skitarii with the 30K Mechanicum units. That would explain why they have that particular faction instead of just being faction Skitarii. The provision of being skitarii heavy support may just have been so they could be fielded before the book release for play testing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Couldn't find another thread to post this in, but according to Lady Atia in the HH Weekender wrapup post, Fires of Cyraxus comes out "between May and Summer" which matches the previous report of "may be available for Warhammer Fest". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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