The Last son of Prospero: spoilers

[helterskelter]

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-last-son-of-prospero-ebook.html

 

Day 24 of the advent calender, a short by Chris Wraight.

 

Apart from being an absolute cracking story it tells us the fate of Arvida, who as some of you may know joined up with the white scars.

Now for the spoiler

No really

Spend the £1.99

I'm giving you this chance to read it for yourselves.

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after struggling with the flesh change, He metamorphosises into one know as Ianius. Now think what a few years and language and the various account guises GW/FW/BL say tales are written under.

Ianius = Janus

 

[Calas Typhon]

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-last-son-of-prospero-ebook.html

 

Day 24 of the advent calender, a short by Chris Wraight.

 

Apart from being an absolute cracking story it tells us the fate of Arvida, who as some of you may know joined up with the white scars.

Now for the spoiler

No really

Spend the £1.99

I'm giving you this chance to read it for yourselves.

Takes 10 minutes on your phones e-reader.

 

Now you've read it

 

after struggling with the flesh change, He metamorphosises into one know as Ianius. Now think what a few years and language and the various account guises GW/FW/BL say tales are written under.

Ianius = Janus

 

 

 

Well Ianius is a genus of moth, which I have no need to point out metamorphose.

 

Janus was the god of beginnings and Transitions.

 

Its pretty clear there for me beyond the time change of the name.

 

[Forward Assist]

 

So...

 

...when do him and Sevatar team up as buddy cops?

 

[Sonoftherubric21]

Okay so thats really cool.  .....Although it is followed by "I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!" 

[bluntblade]

I'm stupidly happy about my theory apparently being correct. Also, holy hell, I haven't held my breath so hard for ten minutes since The Raid 2

[depthcharge12]

 

 

Also, the shards of Magnus are floating around for fetch quests....err high level retrieval missions :P I kind of want to see a good shard bad shard battle in the future. Maybe the box under the GK fortress is another shard of Magnus...?

 

[MikhalLeNoir]

 

Awesome short story. So what exactly was Malcador trying to achieve? Making Magnus from the pure shard? So he can take his place on the golden throne and allow the empress to leave it and meet the traitors head-on?

But he got a mix between primarch and marine instead? (by the way haven't read the prior books, so excuse my question: the tutelage are daemons who accompagny every 1k son? But ianius had a special connection to his 1kson? And did he merge with his compagnionor with magnus shard? Or with both?)

 

[Kelborn]

With A Thousand Sons by McNeill the tutalaries were introduced as a cobsistent companion of every member of the Thousand Sons except Magnus. While reading, you as the reader get the impression that they are denizens of the warp and you assume them to be demons because of the results if one is possessing its mortal counterpart.

 

 

 

But now, with The Last Son of Prospero, we get to know that even the Legion itself didn't knew what exactly their tutalaries were.

Though they could have realized the truth via the Corvidae cult, they didn't see it at all.

 

We, as the reader, get the impression that the tutalaries are either indeed demons (with Ianius being changed by the shard of Magnus into something "good") OR the tutalaries themselves being shards of future-demon Magnus.

As the warp is timeless it could be that future & broken Magnus' shards somehow became the partners of his own past Legion. Malcador even mentioned that he became Legion. Maybe there were enough shards for each legionnaire?

 

All we know is that Arvida had lost his tutalary Ianius long ago without noticing it. Now, it reappears and the melt together, creating something new.

 

That would explain the two face heritage of Janus, the old rumors of him being as mighty as a Primarch and Mortarion knowing him (at least partially).

 

BUT IF the tutalaries are still demons and the shard was just a catalyst for their metamorphosis, we might have seen the first version of the Exorcists chapters recruiting system, which were once called to be a successor chapter of the Grey Knights.

 

And or clarification: Ianius was never mentioned until now. I suggest that we as the reader didn't even thought about Arvidas tutelary. At least I didn't think of it at all while reading Scars, etc.

 

This little story creates way more questions than answers. It perfectly "ends" the arc of Arvida while potentially starting that of Janus.

 

If it's really the case, I really hope that Wraight will continue it. I'd love to see him writing about GK and the Janus / Mortarion fight!! :D

 

 

[Athrawes]

With A Thousand Sons by McNeill the tutalaries were introduced as a cobsistent companion of every member of the Thousand Sons except Magnus. While reading, you as the reader get the impression that they are denizens of the warp and you assume them to be demons because of the results if one is possessing its mortal counterpart.

But now, with The Last Son of Prospero, we get to know that even the Legion itself didn't knew what exactly their tutalaries were.

Though they could have realized the truth via the Corvidae cult, they didn't see it at all.

We, as the reader, get the impression that the tutalaries are either indeed demons (with Ianius being changed by the shard of Magnus into something "good") OR the tutalaries themselves being shards of future-demon Magnus.

As the warp is timeless it could be that future & broken Magnus' shards somehow became the partners of his own past Legion. Malcador even mentioned that he became Legion. Maybe there were enough shards for each legionnaire?

All we know is that Arvida had lost his tutalary Ianius long ago without noticing it. Now, it reappears and the melt together, creating something new.

That would explain the two face heritage of Janus, the old rumors of him being as mighty as a Primarch and Mortarion knowing him (at least partially).

BUT IF the tutalaries are still demons and the shard was just a catalyst for their metamorphosis, we might have seen the first version of the Exorcists chapters recruiting system, which were once called to be a successor chapter of the Grey Knights.

And or clarification: Ianius was never mentioned until now. I suggest that we as the reader didn't even thought about Arvidas tutelary. At least I didn't think of it at all while reading Scars, etc.

This little story creates way more questions than answers. It perfectly "ends" the arc of Arvida while potentially starting that of Janus.

If it's really the case, I really hope that Wraight will continue it. I'd love to see him writing about GK and the Janus / Mortarion fight!!

Ianius was mentioned briefly in Path of Heaven, as Arvidas Tutelary, absent since before the Inferno.

But yeah, this short had huge impact for the setting, and the potential mystery of the Tutelaries is a fantastic bit of lore being expanded.

I honestly never liked the thought that the Thousand Sons were straight up summoning Demons before the Heresy, but this short sets up that Tutelaries are some how special, that they are each uniquely bonded to their Legionary in a curious fashion, almost like a war echo of that Legionary.

I think that Either way they are demonic, either pure warp demons as we have always thought, or now shards of Magnus as his own "Lesser demons of Magnus". Just llike conventional demons are fragments of the 4 great chaos gods, the Tutelaries could be considered similar fragments of Magnus that combined to make us his gestalt.

[helterskelter]

With A Thousand Sons by McNeill the tutalaries were introduced as a cobsistent companion of every member of the Thousand Sons except Magnus. While reading, you as the reader get the impression that they are denizens of the warp and you assume them to be demons because of the results if one is possessing its mortal counterpart.

But now, with The Last Son of Prospero, we get to know that even the Legion itself didn't knew what exactly their tutalaries were.

Though they could have realized the truth via the Corvidae cult, they didn't see it at all.

We, as the reader, get the impression that the tutalaries are either indeed demons (with Ianius being changed by the shard of Magnus into something "good") OR the tutalaries themselves being shards of future-demon Magnus.

As the warp is timeless it could be that future & broken Magnus' shards somehow became the partners of his own past Legion. Malcador even mentioned that he became Legion. Maybe there were enough shards for each legionnaire?

All we know is that Arvida had lost his tutalary Ianius long ago without noticing it. Now, it reappears and the melt together, creating something new.

That would explain the two face heritage of Janus, the old rumors of him being as mighty as a Primarch and Mortarion knowing him (at least partially).

BUT IF the tutalaries are still demons and the shard was just a catalyst for their metamorphosis, we might have seen the first version of the Exorcists chapters recruiting system, which were once called to be a successor chapter of the Grey Knights.

And or clarification: Ianius was never mentioned until now. I suggest that we as the reader didn't even thought about Arvidas tutelary. At least I didn't think of it at all while reading Scars, etc.

This little story creates way more questions than answers. It perfectly "ends" the arc of Arvida while potentially starting that of Janus.

If it's really the case, I really hope that Wraight will continue it. I'd love to see him writing about GK and the Janus / Mortarion fight!!

Ianius was mentioned briefly in Path of Heaven, as Arvidas Tutelary, absent since before the Inferno.

But yeah, this short had huge impact for the setting, and the potential mystery of the Tutelaries is a fantastic bit of lore being expanded.

I honestly never liked the thought that the Thousand Sons were straight up summoning Demons before the Heresy, but this short sets up that Tutelaries are some how special, that they are each uniquely bonded to their Legionary in a curious fashion, almost like a war echo of that Legionary.

I think that Either way they are demonic, either pure warp demons as we have always thought, or now shards of Magnus as his own "Lesser demons of Magnus". Just llike conventional demons are fragments of the 4 great chaos gods, the Tutelaries could be considered similar fragments of Magnus that combined to make us his gestalt.

he clearly gave more than just his eye to save his sons if this is indeed the case

[Balthamal]

 

 

 

Strange as it seems I found the most engrossing part the line Ianius says to Malcador

 

"I know what that means for you Sigilitte and I am sorry"

 

Seems that Malcador has obviously gotten around to realising that he's going to have to take the Emperor's place on the Golden Throne and what the inevitable outcome of that will be

 

 

 

[Athrawes]

 

 

 

Strange as it seems I found the most engrossing part the line Ianius says to Malcador

 

"I know what that means for you Sigilitte and I am sorry"

 

Seems that Malcador has obviously gotten around to realising that he's going to have to take the Emperor's place on the Golden Throne and what the inevitable outcome of that will be

 

 

 

 

 

That could mean that Malcador knows he is going to have to mount the Throne, but I think it is more likely that he simply means freeing up the Emperor from being shackled to the Webway.

 

[Zeratil]

 

I really liked Malcador's no nonsense quote about the warp:

'Malcador shot him a withering glance. 'Of course with sorcery. He was birthed from sorcery. This whole place was built on sorcery. Give it whatever name you will, but the time is past for pretence'. He drank again, and the shaking in his hands receded a little. 'I will not apologise. There was no other path to tread. Even now, even now, fate has not quite run beyond us."

 

[bluntblade]

I really like how Wraight writes Malcador. Also, the Khan's magnificent as ever, especially that entrance

[Xenith]

SPOILERS because you shouldn't be here if you don't want them:

 

What I took from it is that Magnus fragmented himself to make the tutilaries, part of his 'deal'. Each legionnaire got one to look after them.

 

From this thread though, with all the wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, maybe he shattered when he broke into the throne room.

 

Malcador seems desperate to find someone else to take his place on the throne.

[bluntblade]

I'm going to assume the latter is because Malcador already recognises that the strain of rule is breaking him, and he knows what his own death might entail for the Imperium. And also some genuine fear of dying because after all, he's still human.

[Kastor Krieg]

This is awesome. This is another pillar for my "aspects of the Emperor" theory [ http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327641-missing-primarchs-emperor-perfectly-flawed/ ], where Magnus has the "daemonic" aspect of the Emperor, the ability to shed and secrete his power in measured form and fashion. Just like the Emperor does, with the Astronomican daemons, with the Legion of the Damned, so on. If Magnus was able to pull off a tutelary for each Legionnaire, the idea that Legion of the Damned are actually Emperor's will manifest, per se, is even more reinforced.

So much awesome.

[bluntblade]

I have a theory (and actually made Magnus voice it, shameless plug right here) that with the absence of the II and XI, some crucial elements of the Emperor that are meant to be represented by His sons aren't present. The balance isn't what it should be, which isn't enough to topple the whole edifice on its own, but allows the Heresy to bring it to the brink.

[Zeratil]

SPOILERS because you shouldn't be here if you don't want them:

 

What I took from it is that Magnus fragmented himself to make the tutilaries, part of his 'deal'. Each legionnaire got one to look after them.

 

From this thread though, with all the wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff, maybe he shattered when he broke into the throne room.

 

Malcador seems desperate to find someone else to take his place on the throne.

 

Malcador says that Magnus fragmented when he broke into the Throne room, but could of course be wrong. He states earlier that even the Emperor had no idea that Magnus had done a deal with the 'Sentient Storms' to save the Sons and thought it was just his Primarch/Astartes genetic connection that allowed him to suceed where the Mal/The Emps failed.

 

 I think Malcador is more desperate to find someone else to take the Emperor's place on the Throne especially after the events of Master of Mankind, I think he would take up that duty in a heartbeat if he thought he was strong enough to survive more than a day or so.