b1soul Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Very nice work... Really like that squad with the chain glaive leader Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4671143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Cheers all. Quick cheeky update. Second Venator is finished. And the twins together! As always feedback is strongly encouraged! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4671675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 WiP on the Land Raider. Went a bit heavy the weathering to hide the crap blending job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4676421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Hnnngh these tanks!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4676431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Hnnngh these tanks!!! I concur, they're glorious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4676463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Cheers guys Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4676836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legio Draconis Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Those tanks are staggering, kudos brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4676882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Looking damn despicably great#jealousmuch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4677466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Freehand is really impressive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4677792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 So the first 2.5k is finished for this weekend. Land Raider and army shot below. If I'm honest I'm disappointed with the Raider but it will have to do. So I'm at the No Retreat tournament this weekend so I'll try and get loads of pictures and hopefully do a write up on games.... Hopefully. It's gonna be chaos. Plans going ahead I will be adding 500 points by beginning of April which will be a 10 man plasma squad in a rhino and a command rhino for the next event I'm off to. After that I want to do at least 1 Golden Demon entry which is Scars related. The wife has also got me a Warhound for my 30th birthday so that's gonna be awesome to work on. ThinkING maybe a crazy Fire Wasps scheme. As always tell me what you think. I'll get a pic of the army on an actual table aswell so it looks better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4678097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Turned out gorgeously.Looking forward to some action shots :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4678671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This army is so cool! How do you do the chipping? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4678754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 That is a great looking army Ironwithout I am so tempted by a White Scars army myself., so thanks for the information about your paint colours. I've been looking at a lot of the legions but kind of narrowed it down to WS, WE, DG or IF. Fists appear to offer the most straight forward builds as they can do shooty and strong melee, army build costs can be reduced by using plastic HH kits too but I kind of think they are too common? WE fluff appeals but I'm not sure if they transfer well to the table as they appear a bit one dimensional - run across with infantry hordes or expensive assault transports which then weaken the melee force. DG look cool, good fluff but that slow playstyle? I'm not sure I'd like that after a while. Scars on the other hand look great, they are not very common on the table but boy do they cost £££ to build an army. Can I ask why you choose bikes over jetbikes for this army? Was it down to already having built a jetbike army or do you think bikes are a better build? Bikes seem to be more suited to mixing it up in melee compared to jetbikes but do you think they have enough shooting to compete? Oh and good luck with your tournament :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4679280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 That is a great looking army Ironwithout I am so tempted by a White Scars army myself., so thanks for the information about your paint colours. I've been looking at a lot of the legions but kind of narrowed it down to WS, WE, DG or IF. Fists appear to offer the most straight forward builds as they can do shooty and strong melee, army build costs can be reduced by using plastic HH kits too but I kind of think they are too common? WE fluff appeals but I'm not sure if they transfer well to the table as they appear a bit one dimensional - run across with infantry hordes or expensive assault transports which then weaken the melee force. DG look cool, good fluff but that slow playstyle? I'm not sure I'd like that after a while. Scars on the other hand look great, they are not very common on the table but boy do they cost £££ to build an army. Can I ask why you choose bikes over jetbikes for this army? Was it down to already having built a jetbike army or do you think bikes are a better build? Bikes seem to be more suited to mixing it up in melee compared to jetbikes but do you think they have enough shooting to compete? Oh and good luck with your tournament :) I think the legion choice needs to come down to what you prefer and how you prefer to play. Without sounding boastful can you pull off a white you're gonna be happy with? Spending all that money and then painting an army you don't like will be heart breaking. It took me about 30 attempts before I was happy with my initial scheme. As for choices. I chose bikes for 2 reasons. The first being I didn't really want to do jetbikes again. The second being I wanted to do a force representing the Scars leading up to/at the siege of terra hence the mixed equipment and heavy weathering. After a conversation with Alan bligh he was talking about how the Scars had changed so much by this point and how they no longer had the equipment they once did and how they were a broken legion. So I figured they would no longer field huge amounts ofor jetbikes. As for what's better as a troops choice I think the jetbikes are better but the bikes have much more punch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4679314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith’ari Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hi dude! As I said on the Sons of Heresy yesterday, your Scars are looking absolutely stunning. Very inspiring work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4679408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 That is a great looking army Ironwithout I am so tempted by a White Scars army myself., so thanks for the information about your paint colours. I've been looking at a lot of the legions but kind of narrowed it down to WS, WE, DG or IF. Fists appear to offer the most straight forward builds as they can do shooty and strong melee, army build costs can be reduced by using plastic HH kits too but I kind of think they are too common? WE fluff appeals but I'm not sure if they transfer well to the table as they appear a bit one dimensional - run across with infantry hordes or expensive assault transports which then weaken the melee force. DG look cool, good fluff but that slow playstyle? I'm not sure I'd like that after a while. Scars on the other hand look great, they are not very common on the table but boy do they cost £££ to build an army. Can I ask why you choose bikes over jetbikes for this army? Was it down to already having built a jetbike army or do you think bikes are a better build? Bikes seem to be more suited to mixing it up in melee compared to jetbikes but do you think they have enough shooting to compete? Oh and good luck with your tournament I think the legion choice needs to come down to what you prefer and how you prefer to play. Without sounding boastful can you pull off a white you're gonna be happy with? Spending all that money and then painting an army you don't like will be heart breaking. It took me about 30 attempts before I was happy with my initial scheme. As for choices. I chose bikes for 2 reasons. The first being I didn't really want to do jetbikes again. The second being I wanted to do a force representing the Scars leading up to/at the siege of terra hence the mixed equipment and heavy weathering. After a conversation with Alan bligh he was talking about how the Scars had changed so much by this point and how they no longer had the equipment they once did and how they were a broken legion. So I figured they would no longer field huge amounts ofor jetbikes. As for what's better as a troops choice I think the jetbikes are better but the bikes have much more punch Thanks for the reply Ironwithin it's interesting and helpful to hear your thoughts on the Scars. The last HH models I painted were SoH http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/paulj1965/BLACK/2016-10/DSCF0364_zpsfbvpg6kw.jpg I've airbrushed white before with zenithal highlighting (there was very little actual white TBH) but I have a different style in mind this time so I am not too concerned about getting the base colour to a standard I'd be happy with. I think I'd use a cooler white than last time as I used a warm white taken up from a cream offwhite base - I won't post a picture as it's xenos but you can have a look here if you want but it's just a crappy quick iphone picture - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/paulj1965/BLACK/2016-10/IMG_0451_zpsft2x8scz.jpg Besides I've got a great source of inspiration for Scars right here I've got the money to do it and even got as far as putting it in the shopping basket on FW but failed to pull the trigger lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4679566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafetyTurtle Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Oh man, this is one awesome looking army and that weathering on the vehicles is just mindblowing.Extremely well done army! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4679572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Apologies for the delayed replies and lack of updates. The tournament is over and I'll be uploading information on the battle reports and pictures over the next week. I finished on 3 wins and 2 close losses. Came 7th out of 28 and won best painted vehicle, player voted best painted army and judges voted best painted army which was an amazing result considering how beautiful the armies were. That is a great looking army Ironwithout I am so tempted by a White Scars army myself., so thanks for the information about your paint colours. I've been looking at a lot of the legions but kind of narrowed it down to WS, WE, DG or IF. Fists appear to offer the most straight forward builds as they can do shooty and strong melee, army build costs can be reduced by using plastic HH kits too but I kind of think they are too common? WE fluff appeals but I'm not sure if they transfer well to the table as they appear a bit one dimensional - run across with infantry hordes or expensive assault transports which then weaken the melee force. DG look cool, good fluff but that slow playstyle? I'm not sure I'd like that after a while. Scars on the other hand look great, they are not very common on the table but boy do they cost £££ to build an army. Can I ask why you choose bikes over jetbikes for this army? Was it down to already having built a jetbike army or do you think bikes are a better build? Bikes seem to be more suited to mixing it up in melee compared to jetbikes but do you think they have enough shooting to compete? Oh and good luck with your tournament I think the legion choice needs to come down to what you prefer and how you prefer to play. Without sounding boastful can you pull off a white you're gonna be happy with? Spending all that money and then painting an army you don't like will be heart breaking. It took me about 30 attempts before I was happy with my initial scheme. As for choices. I chose bikes for 2 reasons. The first being I didn't really want to do jetbikes again. The second being I wanted to do a force representing the Scars leading up to/at the siege of terra hence the mixed equipment and heavy weathering. After a conversation with Alan bligh he was talking about how the Scars had changed so much by this point and how they no longer had the equipment they once did and how they were a broken legion. So I figured they would no longer field huge amounts ofor jetbikes. As for what's better as a troops choice I think the jetbikes are better but the bikes have much more punch Thanks for the reply Ironwithin it's interesting and helpful to hear your thoughts on the Scars. The last HH models I painted were SoH http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/paulj1965/BLACK/2016-10/DSCF0364_zpsfbvpg6kw.jpg I've airbrushed white before with zenithal highlighting (there was very little actual white TBH) but I have a different style in mind this time so I am not too concerned about getting the base colour to a standard I'd be happy with. I think I'd use a cooler white than last time as I used a warm white taken up from a cream offwhite base - I won't post a picture as it's xenos but you can have a look here if you want but it's just a crappy quick iphone picture - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/paulj1965/BLACK/2016-10/IMG_0451_zpsft2x8scz.jpg Besides I've got a great source of inspiration for Scars right here I've got the money to do it and even got as far as putting it in the shopping basket on FW but failed to pull the trigger lol So my only advice would be as your white is lovely. Don't go for complete realism which is what zenithal supports. Don't be afraid to shade areas to add interest as we're imitating reality and artistic interpretation will often give a better result otherwise you can end up with flat results. Also with Scars your secondary and tertiary colours are as important as the white as it stops the model from looking boring. I chose the blue shade as thathe would pop better with the red. I will eventually go back and add green as a Tertiarry colour as they will compliment on small things like eye lenses. Hope that helps Oh man, this is one awesome looking army and that weathering on the vehicles is just mindblowing. Extremely well done army! Thankyou! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4681840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Well-deserved awards there, brother!Congratulations! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4681943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 That's a lovely Raider Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4682077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Congratulations on the awards it sounds like you had a fun time :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329306-ironwithouts-scars-25k-complete/page/2/#findComment-4683180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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