Azaryn Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just getting back into the hobby, I picked up some DV DA models from a carboot sale. The tactical squad has been semi painted in purple & green (poorly). All of the Termies have been primed purple (1 or 2 poorly painted). The bikes & special characters have been built but not painted. I can't post pics right now from work but will do later. How hard would it be to convert them into Lamenters? Is the tactical squad salvageable? (will post the pics later). Also what would be the best starting point for my Lamenters the BA starter kit or the SM starter kit? Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 To strip the paint, your local Hardware store / Home Depot should have a cleaner concentrate called Simple Green, mix some of that up with water in aluchbox and soak the models overnight, 12hrs or so. Then grab a stiff bristled toothbrush and give the models a good scrub (wear gloves). A second bath maybe necessary. Once your happy a quick rinse in warm soapy water will remove any Simple Green residue. Now as for the converting, if you have some Hobby clippers, you're all set. Using the clippers, carefully cut away the moulded shoulder pads, making sure to leave the "arm" shape underneath. You can do only the Chapter Badge, or both, it's up to you. Then I recommend THESE from Shapeways, he has an excellent rep here on the B&C. Either of those starter sets will be acceptable, it really depends on which models you like more. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4610254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaryn Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 To strip the paint, your local Hardware store / Home Depot should have a cleaner concentrate called Simple Green, mix some of that up with water in aluchbox and soak the models overnight, 12hrs or so. Then grab a stiff bristled toothbrush and give the models a good scrub (wear gloves). A second bath maybe necessary. Once your happy a quick rinse in warm soapy water will remove any Simple Green residue. Now as for the converting, if you have some Hobby clippers, you're all set. Using the clippers, carefully cut away the moulded shoulder pads, making sure to leave the "arm" shape underneath. You can do only the Chapter Badge, or both, it's up to you. Then I recommend THESE from Shapeways, he has an excellent rep here on the B&C. Either of those starter sets will be acceptable, it really depends on which models you like more. Cheers, Jono Thanks for the info, I will look into the shoulder pads, a friend suggested using nail transfers but I think they might be too large. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4610343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Where are you located in the world? I ask as paint-stripping products that work on plastic figures are pretty country-specific. Gnerally in the US either Simple Green or Purple Power (use concentrated without dilution) are popular, whereas in the UK Dettol (the cheap brown stuff, use neat) and Halford's Dot4 Clutch & Brake fluid are both good. In the UK I have heard the Biostrip20 is also amazing and safe to use on plastics - but it's also the only one I've not tried myself! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4610953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaryn Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Where are you located in the world? I ask as paint-stripping products that work on plastic figures are pretty country-specific. Gnerally in the US either Simple Green or Purple Power (use concentrated without dilution) are popular, whereas in the UK Dettol (the cheap brown stuff, use neat) and Halford's Dot4 Clutch & Brake fluid are both good. In the UK I have heard the Biostrip20 is also amazing and safe to use on plastics - but it's also the only one I've not tried myself! I'm currently in France, I did a test run on of the really poor, thick models in barbecue lighter fuel (most french forums suggested similar products). The model has been soaked 12 hours. Most of the paint seems to be gone. Kind of hard to get off all the small crevices though ie : behind the gun, under the shoulder pads. Will post pics when back from work, put the model back to soak in the meantime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4611319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Where are you located in the world? I ask as paint-stripping products that work on plastic figures are pretty country-specific. Gnerally in the US either Simple Green or Purple Power (use concentrated without dilution) are popular, whereas in the UK Dettol (the cheap brown stuff, use neat) and Halford's Dot4 Clutch & Brake fluid are both good. In the UK I have heard the Biostrip20 is also amazing and safe to use on plastics - but it's also the only one I've not tried myself! I'm currently in France, I did a test run on of the really poor, thick models in barbecue lighter fuel (most french forums suggested similar products). The model has been soaked 12 hours. Most of the paint seems to be gone. Kind of hard to get off all the small crevices though ie : behind the gun, under the shoulder pads. Will post pics when back from work, put the model back to soak in the meantime. You'll never get it all, small amounts in the crevices won't effect your finished model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4611381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaryn Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Where are you located in the world? I ask as paint-stripping products that work on plastic figures are pretty country-specific. Gnerally in the US either Simple Green or Purple Power (use concentrated without dilution) are popular, whereas in the UK Dettol (the cheap brown stuff, use neat) and Halford's Dot4 Clutch & Brake fluid are both good. In the UK I have heard the Biostrip20 is also amazing and safe to use on plastics - but it's also the only one I've not tried myself! I'm currently in France, I did a test run on of the really poor, thick models in barbecue lighter fuel (most french forums suggested similar products). The model has been soaked 12 hours. Most of the paint seems to be gone. Kind of hard to get off all the small crevices though ie : behind the gun, under the shoulder pads. Will post pics when back from work, put the model back to soak in the meantime. You'll never get it all, small amounts in the crevices won't effect your finished model. I'll do my best to get rid of the most of it then. Thanks for the input. Going to set up and WIP when I get started up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4611434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaryn Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Here is a link to the current status of my guys http://imgur.com/gallery/dgdwF Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4612194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewChristlieb Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 If the stuff in the crevices are really bothering you take a toothpic to them and you can get most of it out if not all. You can also carefully use nail polish remover (non-acetone if available) on the pick to get stubborn bits, just be careful to use small amounts and rinse well since nail polish remover can eat the plastic models if you get a lot on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4612356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glomshark Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 To strip the paint, your local Hardware store / Home Depot should have a cleaner concentrate called Simple Green, mix some of that up with water in aluchbox and soak the models overnight, 12hrs or so. Then grab a stiff bristled toothbrush and give the models a good scrub (wear gloves). A second bath maybe necessary. Once your happy a quick rinse in warm soapy water will remove any Simple Green residue. Now as for the converting, if you have some Hobby clippers, you're all set. Using the clippers, carefully cut away the moulded shoulder pads, making sure to leave the "arm" shape underneath. You can do only the Chapter Badge, or both, it's up to you. Then I recommend THESE from Shapeways, he has an excellent rep here on the B&C. Either of those starter sets will be acceptable, it really depends on which models you like more. Cheers, Jono Personally, I would use 70% isopropryl alcohol, it works better in my opinion and it doesn't melt resin or plastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4612379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Tom Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Unfortunately, Simple green or Dettol are not available in France. I usually use brake liquid (is it the proper english word ??? liquide de frein in French - Bendix 55). It does work well but you need to be careful because this liquid is very toxic, you can re use it after filtering it with a woman stocking (correct word ??? - Forgive my poor englis vocabulary). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4612561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaryn Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Unfortunately, Simple green or Dettol are not available in France. I usually use brake liquid (is it the proper english word ??? liquide de frein in French - Bendix 55). It does work well but you need to be careful because this liquid is very toxic, you can re use it after filtering it with a woman stocking (correct word ??? - Forgive my poor englis vocabulary). I might try this, I know what you mean Thanks for the tips Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4612615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Wolf Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 @ Chaos Lord Tom: Iso propyl alcohol (99%) is excellent for stripping all miniatures although you should remove resin ones after 1/2 an hour as the resin will soften. It is the active ingredient in Dettol without the smelly pine oil component of the product. You should be able to purchase this in France quite easily. Biostrip is also excellent and works well on resin miniatures. It is available mail order from biostrip.co.uk. Brake fluid (liquide de frein) is good but as you've said - toxic - due to this I wouldn't use it - no doubt it is effective. Filtering through a lady's stockings or tights though result in my wife thumping me - especially if she wants to wear them.... And your English is excellent mon ami. ATB WW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329424-need-help-salvaging-dark-vengeance-da-semi-painted/#findComment-4612761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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