Soldier of Dorn Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Semper; can you remind me if it's okay to vow models from different Legions or do we have to pick and stick with a single faction, like ETL? Also interested to know this, my Vlka Fenryka company shall have several squads from other Legions as part of their exchange programme and I might paint some of those up whilst waiting for Inferno. Only choice you have to make is Loyalist or Traitor: anything beyond that *should* be fine. That being said, this is based on my (admittedly dim) recollection of last year's rules. Semper may have changed them or I may be misremembering (although I hope such is not the case. Want to paint Fists, Blood Angels, and maybe a little Vlka with a side offering of Custodes and Sisters with the possibility of Militia this year...) Incidentally, both the Custodians and the Sisters of Silence have get-you-by rules in November 2016 White Dwarf (p.113-115). But even if there were no rules we'd allow them! Oh good! Was just a little concerned because while the Custodes have 30k rules proper in the December White Dwarf, the Sisters have no such thing beyond the 40k rules you mention... but good to hear. Well the idea is to motivate people to complete their projects on one hand but keep the playing field level on the other. If they are in early stages of painting they'd be fine. Send me pics and will give you a ruling. Bleh. I've got a Knight in a pretty cruddy state right now, with basically just some basecoats put down. I'll send you a picture when I get the chance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Semper; can you remind me if it's okay to vow models from different Legions or do we have to pick and stick with a single faction, like ETL? Furthermore, would the new 40k Thousand Sons kits be acceptable as Legion Terminator Squads / Veteran Tactical Squads respectively? I am planning to do them in the Pre-Heresy red scheme. The only consideration is to have 30k legal units. You can choose any Legion or other Faction or any mix of any (did that even make sense in English? :unsure: Incidentally, both the Custodians and the Sisters of Silence have get-you-by rules in November 2016 White Dwarf (p.113-115). But even if there were no rules we'd allow them! Oh good! Was just a little concerned because while the Custodes have 30k rules proper in the December White Dwarf, the Sisters have no such thing beyond the 40k rules you mention... but good to hear. Well the idea is to motivate people to complete their projects on one hand but keep the playing field level on the other. If they are in early stages of painting they'd be fine. Send me pics and will give you a ruling. Bleh. I've got a Knight in a pretty cruddy state right now, with basically just some basecoats put down. I'll send you a picture when I get the chance. Yeah, check out the November issue (the one that introduces Prospero). You'll find the rules there, although I suspect something more elaborate will come up once the black book is out. And yes, feel free to send me pics. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 In. Time to get some DG done Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The only consideration is to have 30k legal units. You can choose any Legion or other Faction or any mix of any (did that even make sense in English? Yep, makes perfect sense thank you! I will be putting forward some Thousand Sons and Alpha Legion this time around :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I might contribute some models... - famous last words of Depthcharge, renowned slacker Might? Might? Due to your work and Forward Assist's, I have gone down a dark path I never would have imagined for myself in my 20 years in the hobby. I'm actually making the 1st Legion my 2017 Heresy era project. Mostly due to the Rangdan Vets and work you two put out. If I, a solid Wolf Lord and hater of all things Dark Angels, can commit to the 1st Legion I expect more than "might". (Hope you recognize the good natured ribbing as intended, though the praise is fully meant as written) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 And yes, feel free to send me pics. Right, will take care of that in the morning. Also, one more question: what's the stance on fortifications? Been thinking about getting a few of the plastic bunkers for a while now, and if they're allowed for L&T that might send me over the edge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm in. I have a few bits assembled but not painted and I can easily hold off starting them until the 15th. XX Legion and some Custodes. I suspect my part painted Lerneans are a bit too far along though so they'll not be a part of the vow. Cheers Vogon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Fortifications are welcome! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I might contribute some models... - famous last words of Depthcharge, renowned slacker Might? Might? Due to your work and Forward Assist's, I have gone down a dark path I never would have imagined for myself in my 20 years in the hobby. I'm actually making the 1st Legion my 2017 Heresy era project. Mostly due to the Rangdan Vets and work you two put out. If I, a solid Wolf Lord and hater of all things Dark Angels, can commit to the 1st Legion I expect more than "might". (Hope you recognize the good natured ribbing as intended, though the praise is fully meant as written) Thanks man it means a lot for any praise. As a devoted hater of all things wolf shaped...I have actually gotten an itch to paint some Vlka in that sweet dark storm grey. I just started getting more into Vikings so the pull is strong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4612905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Aw crap, not this again. :) Captain Semper: how lenient can it be when it comes to converting and kitbashing? I'd like to contribute with a caestus assault ram, kitbashed from a storm fang and stormraven. (Not yet built, damn holiday posting time!) Other than that hope to contribute some dreadnought talons, iron havocs, artillery, and more... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yesssssssssss! Peachy keen for this. My group has finally discussed a little ZM set up at 1,000pts. so I may finally be able to legitimately dip my toes into the HH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Hmmm - time to get a bunch of Iron Warrior dreads ready for painting then! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This is super tempting considering how bad I am at completing projects. A source of motivation would be really useful, especially considering having recently purchased BoP, I managed to build one whole model and then pretty much wandered off. On the other hand, I'm keenly aware that from monday, I'll have three months where I'll be entirely unable to do any hobbying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This is super tempting considering how bad I am at completing projects. A source of motivation would be really useful, especially considering having recently purchased BoP, I managed to build one whole model and then pretty much wandered off. On the other hand, I'm keenly aware that from monday, I'll have three months where I'll be entirely unable to do any hobbying. But it's a damn fine model. ;) My own BoP is mostly unbuilt, hopefully this will help getting all those tactical marines done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Aw crap, not this again. Captain Semper: how lenient can it be when it comes to converting and kitbashing? I'd like to contribute with a caestus assault ram, kitbashed from a storm fang and stormraven. (Not yet built, damn holiday posting time!) Other than that hope to contribute some dreadnought talons, iron havocs, artillery, and more... Kit bashing and converting are not only allowed, they are encouraged! :woot: Go crazy! Yesssssssssss! Peachy keen for this. My group has finally discussed a little ZM set up at 1,000pts. so I may finally be able to legitimately dip my toes into the HH. Good! will that be the first time to actually see a finished model from ADB? :P It's either the full 1,000 pts ZM force or it's the penal legions for you! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The Bearers of the True Word have heard the call of the Warmaster and have answered. The Chapter of the Sacred Vessel shall march to war. I've got some models assembled and primed and I'm impatiently awaiting January 15th to begin the challenge. So far I know I'm vowing: 2 x Laser Destroyer Vindicators 10 x Word Bearers Breachers 1 x Dual Grav Bombard Leviathan I'm awaiting the arrival of the following: 1 x Conversion Beamer Predator 4 x Word Bearers Apothecaries And there will be more to add to the vow. Do we have three months like we did with ETL? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yeap, three months! But not like the ETL in any other respect. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 ...seeking confirmation... ... ... ... ...confirmation received... ...inload begins... "O'er The Ramparts we Watch." The war-horns sound. The klaxons blare. The drumbeat of war in our step. To the darkness we bring light. To the ignorant we bring wisdom. To the defenseless, we are their shield. We serve and we protect. We are the Watchtower. Marble, for we are a fortress. Gold for the right to rule. Iron, for we are, at the end, warriors, no matter our circumstance of glory. For Dorn and the Seventh Legion. For Terra, and its Emperor. For the Imperium of Mankind. O'er Its Ramparts We Watch. [pict-capture: A knight of House Watchtower, oathbound to the VII Legion. Depicted as it was at the Nehvra Kaelix sump-fields, Siege of Terra.] ... attached index... Requisition form - Loyalty and Treachery, the Third Offensive [siege of Terra] - Battlegroup Nehvra under Shield-Commandant Eilings an incomplete manifest Of the VII Legion, 284th Storm Battalion, various companies: Lieutenant Rael Donovan, Wallbreaker [Command Officer] Judiciary Isayah Xayle [Chaplain/Judiciary Protocol] Behn Ashkai, Librarius Commander Sam'yel de Carnelyn [Master of Signals] I Tactical, Company A II Tactical, Company A I Seeker, Hunter Division III Wallbreaker [Tartaros] Skyfall Squadron [Vindicator] Of the IX Legion, Azra'il Company: Edura'el First Tactical Fear No Evil [Legion Corvid-pattern Storm Eagle] Ma'rel Third Assault Of the Imperial Army: 20 infantrymen of the 3rd T'lantic Rifles 10 infantrymen of the 170th Trans-Solar Imperial Engineers Of House Watchtower, Knightly House oathbound to the VII Legion: Desmond of the Watchtower [Knight-Crusader] Of the Pale Sorrows Cadre, Sorositas Inconcessus [sCRAPSHUNTERRORABORT] Numbers unknown, datafile corruption Of the Legio Custodes [sCRAPSHUNTERRORABORT] Numbers unknown, datafile corruption ...inload ends... Basically what I can think of painting off of the top of my head. I'm sure there's more... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 This is super tempting considering how bad I am at completing projects. A source of motivation would be really useful, especially considering having recently purchased BoP, I managed to build one whole model and then pretty much wandered off. On the other hand, I'm keenly aware that from monday, I'll have three months where I'll be entirely unable to do any hobbying. But it's a damn fine model. My own BoP is mostly unbuilt, hopefully this will help getting all those tactical marines done. Haha, thanks dude - the lack of a paintjob and lumps of blu-tac are obviously part of his wagear too Yeap, three months! But not like the ETL in any other respect. Three months? Damn, looks like I'm out - much as I'd like to pretend my finals year isn't a thing, I'm not gonna be able to do any miniature-related hobby in that timeframe Good luck everyone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4613983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBoxman Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The XIVth accepts your terms 2x 20 man Tactical Squads 1x 10 man Deathshroud 3x Quad Mortars All over your battlefield Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4614016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yeap, three months! But not like the ETL in any other respect. Three months? Damn, looks like I'm out - much as I'd like to pretend my finals year isn't a thing, I'm not gonna be able to do any miniature-related hobby in that timeframe Good luck everyone Not sure I follow... :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4614029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yeap, three months! But not like the ETL in any other respect. Three months? Damn, looks like I'm out - much as I'd like to pretend my finals year isn't a thing, I'm not gonna be able to do any miniature-related hobby in that timeframe Good luck everyone Not sure I follow... :confused: I'm not gonna be able to do any hobbying in the next three months, so there's no way I could hit a three month deadline :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4614050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Predator Squadron (HB x3) Predator Squadron (LC x3) Contemptor Dread (TBD) Is what I'm looking at Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4614281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I did kinda make a resolution to get more stuff done (and I am, just nothing I can show on the B&C right now), but unfortunately everything that I would want to pledge for this I'm not in a good position for... just about everything would need to have something ordered for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4614876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleBrotherJohn Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 This seems like the perfect motivation for me to get my 30k Imperial Fists started ( B@C figures with a couple of count as thudd guns. Maybe some Custodes and Sisters of Silence ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329447-loyalty-treachery-to-return/page/2/#findComment-4614882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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