General Strike Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Would there be any forces of the cult dedicated to destroying Chaos and the Dark Mechanicus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Absolutely. All machines that don't conform to Martian standards are the biggest imaginable affront to the machine god, so Dark Mechanicum would be a prime target. Chaos also killed the Omnissiah, I'm sure typical magi aren't happy about that. On top of that Chaos infects machines very easily, it seems (based on the novel Mechanicum) so preemptive attacks would be a sound strategy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4612183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Or they are just curious and want to have a closer look at their weapons and equipment ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4612463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 I also was curious if the CM were worth using with Skitarii? They seem to only offer two units worth taking, and it seems like the only formation worth taking is the War Con? I planned to run C:IA with GK and a Inq but would it be better to run CM? I want a daemon and chaos hunting force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4612725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I planned to run C:IA with GK and a Inq but would it be better to run CM? I want a daemon and chaos hunting force Don't get that one You want to play Imperial Agents, Grey Knights and Inquisition or is it better to run Cult Mechanicus... but instead of what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4612880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sorry, my phrasing was off there. I was wondering if Skitarii and Cult Mech are a better army or if running a Inq and NDKs with Skitarii would be? Are Breachers and Canticles worth it over an Inq and NDKs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4612902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why not both? Skitarii as the main force, take an Inquisitor and some Grey Knights from the Imperial Agents or Grey Knights book (depends on whether you want to take a HQ or not) and then Cult Mechanicus as desired. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Mainly for points, in order for the canticles to work on my skitarii I have to take the War con, right? I can probably squeeze my Inquisitor into the list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Fair enough. Grey Knights are fairly pricy, after all. Inquisitors are pretty cheap though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Or they are just curious and want to have a closer look at their weapons and equipment Do you want Scrap Code? Because this is how you catch Scrap Code! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 I guess I should read what the canticles do for me and compare there value vs 1-2 NDKs and Interceptors. Its like free upgrades and canticles work on Skitarii and the Knight, but the army is pretty much built for me. Which is a fair trade, or I can bring the nice light infantry skitarii, some NDKs and maybe a Librarius/ Inquisitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 I just did a mock up list at 1850 and I got this: Imperial Knight Gallant Skitarii War Con Onager Vanguard: 10x man Rangers: 10x man Ruststalkers: 5x man Infiltrators: 5x man Dragoon: 1x walker Cult Mech War Con Dominus Breachers: 3x man Breachers: 3x man Inquisition Ordo Malleus: Carapace, ML1, Combi-Plasma, Force Sword Daemonhunter NDK: Greatsword, Personal Teleporter, Incinerator, Psycannon Interceptors: 5x man Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just as a thought, if you were looking at using Cult Mechanicus with Inq/GK, the Tech-Priest taken from the Enginseer Congregation gives you a cheap way of boosting the tally of units with Canticles and, as an Independent Character, he can presumably join an Inquisition or GK to confer the benefits. Unfortunately, a Tech-Priest selected as part of an Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband doesn't seem to have access to Canticles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Don't you need a GK HQ choice for that list though? Inquisitors aren't part of the GK list anymore, and you've only got a Fast Attack and Heavy Support. You'll have to either take a cheap HQ, or use the Imperial Agents GK list and take a unit of Terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 The new C:IA detachment is interceptors or terminators with a NDK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4613995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 If you want a war convocation, I think more Cult will usually be better. In that list you posted, once you lose a couple units your canticles are getting weaker. Adding in more Cult will safeguard against losing important buffs. If you really want to include the Inq et al, I'd recommend not really counting on the canticles when you plan (since they'll lose some potency rather quickly). But don't count on still having the highest benefits, since you could easily lose enough units to drop down a notch on the first turn if your enemy goes first, especially with an alpha strike list. If you do want to add cult, shooty Kastelans are amazing, and I'd recommend giving them a shot at least a couple times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4614344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The new C:IA detachment is interceptors or terminators with a NDK. Huh, never noticed that. Awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329499-reasons-for-cm-and-skitarii-to-fight/#findComment-4614580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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