Ragnar Blackmane by ADB

[HeritorA]

This isn't a recent release though, right? ...  came out in 2015?

Old stuff - limited hardback as mentioned above was released in the end of 2015. Then at the end of 2016 this one - general hardback and ebook versions

[godking]

Ragnar was a great book.

 

The most memorable moment in the book was that Flesh tearer  chaplain tearing Ragnar a new arse and basically telling him to get the :cuss over himself.

 

I love the space wolves for their independence and ability to think outside the box relative to other chapters i loath the unearned hubris and arrogant belief  that they alone are always in the right.

[HeritorA]

Ragnar was a great book.

The most memorable moment in the book was that Flesh tearer chaplain tearing Ragnar a new arse and basically telling him to get the over himself.

I love the space wolves for their independence and ability to think outside the box relative to other chapters i loath the unearned hubris and arrogant belief that they alone are always in the right.

Ahh, probably you are a SW fan, cause that' #1 chapter who always in the right, without anything humble in their opinion.

[Kelborn]

Heri, just let it be.

 

Imagine someone is constantly disregarding a book you're enjoying or even loving. And that specific guy always comes up as soon as someone is posting about your favorite book or chapter (btw I'm curious which that might be. Alphas maybe?) and pulls it through the mud (right term?).

 

Would you be happy about it?

 

Seriously, EVERYONE knows that you don't like the wolves. And don't tell me about prose. 95% of the "worse" books do contain wolves. Accident?

 

Just leave it be. Let others enjoy their books while you enjoy yours.

 

Sadly your posts are partially pure provocation. Even if you didn't intend that, there are a couple of guys out there, who didn't get your post in the way you meant it.

 

That leads to misunderstandings and intense discussions which most likely become pure insultings.

 

That's not funny.

 

So please, for the sake of the harmony, try to avoid such unnecessary posts, ok? :/

[Augustus]

Space Wolf honor is as selective as Dark Angels in my opinion. They come from a planet of reavers where it's okay to sneak up on people at night during a party. I thought the book demonstrated that the younger ones (Ragnar is still young, he was promoted very quickly) are only interested in glory and winning while the older wolves understand the consequences of their actions.

 

This same vein is demonstrated in Wraight's Leman Russ.

 

My main point on how the SW think: if you think your opponent is without honor then they deserve none.

[Kastor Krieg]

Heri, just let it be.

 

Imagine someone is constantly disregarding a book you're enjoying or even loving. And that specific guy always comes up as soon as someone is posting about your favorite book or chapter (btw I'm curious which that might be. Alphas maybe?) and pulls it through the mud (right term?).

 

Would you be happy about it?

 

Seriously, EVERYONE knows that you don't like the wolves. And don't tell me about prose. 95% of the "worse" books do contain wolves. Accident?

 

Just leave it be. Let others enjoy their books while you enjoy yours.

 

Sadly your posts are partially pure provocation. Even if you didn't intend that, there are a couple of guys out there, who didn't get your post in the way you meant it.

 

That leads to misunderstandings and intense discussions which most likely become pure insultings.

 

That's not funny.

 

So please, for the sake of the harmony, try to avoid such unnecessary posts, ok? :/

I just started reporting his posts every time he does that and let the Moderati sort him out.

[HeritorA]

Space Wolf honor is as selective as Dark Angels in my opinion. They come from a planet of reavers where it's okay to sneak up on people at night during a party. I thought the book demonstrated that the younger ones (Ragnar is still young, he was promoted very quickly) are only interested in glory and winning while the older wolves understand the consequences of their actions.

This same vein is demonstrated in Wraight's Leman Russ.

My main point on how the SW think: if you think your opponent is without honor then they deserve none.

Exactly what Augustus said. At least Wraight tried to 'humble' them a little

Heri, just let it be.

Imagine someone is constantly disregarding a book you're enjoying or even loving. And that specific guy always comes up as soon as someone is posting about your favorite book or chapter (btw I'm curious which that might be. Alphas maybe?) and pulls it through the mud (right term?).

Would you be happy about it?

Seriously, EVERYONE knows that you don't like the wolves. And don't tell me about prose. 95% of the "worse" books do contain wolves. Accident?

Just leave it be. Let others enjoy their books while you enjoy yours.

Sadly your posts are partially pure provocation. Even if you didn't intend that, there are a couple of guys out there, who didn't get your post in the way you meant it.

That leads to misunderstandings and intense discussions which most likely become pure insultings.

That's not funny.

So please, for the sake of the harmony, try to avoid such unnecessary posts, ok? :/

I just started reporting his posts every time he does that and let the Moderati sort him out.

what doesn't like the post about envy?

[HeritorA]

Space Wolf honor is as selective as Dark Angels in my opinion. They come from a planet of reavers where it's okay to sneak up on people at night during a party. I thought the book demonstrated that the younger ones (Ragnar is still young, he was promoted very quickly) are only interested in glory and winning while the older wolves understand the consequences of their actions.

 

This same vein is demonstrated in Wraight's Leman Russ.

 

My main point on how the SW think: if you think your opponent is without honor then they deserve none.

That's exactly how they are. Their honor is very changeable accordingly to different circumstences.

 

Ragnar has a lot of interesting ideas which gone wrong, several spectacular moments - e.g. 'that Flesh tearer  chaplain tearing Ragnar a new arse and basically telling him to get the :cuss over himself.' and finding a drifting cruiser. Plus the skald - probably one the best SW ever.

 

But in general this novella suffer from it's diversive story and plot-armoured Ragnar and kin.

[Kelborn]

Well,

Just discovered that my local book store got the omnibus including Ragnar and Arjac.

Guess what's on top of my to do list now. ;)

 

Hopefully it will take me into the right mood for Inferno, followed by Russ' Primarch book. :)

[DarkChaplain]

That german/french omnibus didn't even cross my vision. Too bad they just put the Arjac cover on it. Interesting to see them doing combined editions for other languages though.

[HeritorA]

Well,

Just discovered that my local book store got the omnibus including Ragnar and Arjac.

Guess what's on top of my to do list now.

Hopefully it will take me into the right mood for Inferno, followed by Russ' Primarch book.

Forge World yummi Inferno? that amazing book with TS, SW, SoS, Custodes with amazing campaign, a lot of amazing scetches,covers etc? From the team who knows how to do a 'right' HH book?

Horus Heresy Weekender cant come soon enough

[Kelborn]

@DC: didn't knew that it was limited to certain countries. Maybe they did that to cover lacking success with the stand alone versions in these regions.

 

@Heri: hell yeah. It's about time.

[Petitioner's City]

Well,

Just discovered that my local book store got the omnibus including Ragnar and Arjac.

Guess what's on top of my to do list now.

Hopefully it will take me into the right mood for Inferno, followed by Russ' Primarch book.

Forge World yummi Inferno? that amazing book with TS, SW, SoS, Custodes with amazing campaign, a lot of amazing scetches,covers etc? From the team who knows how to do a 'right' HH book?

Horus Heresy Weekender cant come soon enough

What's a 'left' HH book? ;)

[Mellow]

Just finished it.

 

The end was beautiful. Such words for the word God laid down with care at the word throne.

[HeritorA]

Well,

Just discovered that my local book store got the omnibus including Ragnar and Arjac.

Guess what's on top of my to do list now.

Hopefully it will take me into the right mood for Inferno, followed by Russ' Primarch book.

Forge World yummi Inferno? that amazing book with TS, SW, SoS, Custodes with amazing campaign, a lot of amazing scetches,covers etc? From the team who knows how to do a 'right' HH book?

Horus Heresy Weekender cant come soon enough

What's a 'left' HH book?

'Binary Succession and Brexit'?

I know you are waiting with baited breath for it too, lol

[Petitioner's City]

Em, where did my line about a 'left' HH book go? It was a wee joke, not political, and had a few likes so i definitely uploaded it

[HeritorA]

@DC: didn't knew that it was limited to certain countries. Maybe they did that to cover lacking success with the stand alone versions in these regions.

 

@Heri: hell yeah. It's about time.

The schedule for HH seems fantastic. I can't wait to visit the event.

 

As for Ragnar  - just remembered that the scene with the 'darkness on Cadia' now seems like a foreshadowing. And that rose a question - aren't Ragnar on Cadia then Abaddon arrived in person during 13th BL Crusade? Why he is not mentioned in the Fall of Cadia? Is Ragnar  events are now retconned?

There is a controversy about a Wolf Lord for Howlers from Fall of Cadia and Warzone Fenris. What is the timegap between the two?

[Kelborn]

Halfway through it.

Currently on Cretacia but damn!!!

 

I hate you Aaron. You did it again. Again, you wrote about a faction I never intended to have any interest in and made me fall in love with them. This time, it's the Flesh Tearers chapter. ^^

 

Why are you doing this to me? Jeez...now I want to read more about them. Here, take my money and write a whole novel about the FTs or the BAs! :D

I really enjoy their depiction and especially Cretacia itself. Coincidentally I was looking for an appropriate world for my Warbeasts. Seems like I found a good comparison for theirs. :tu:

 

Until now, I love this book. Good story, good characters. Nothing to complain about. The roles of the bards is something which fits their Viking theme really good.

 

Though I did start Bens stories of Arjac, I skipped them after a couple of pages to dive into Ragnar. Way better and more entertaining. Arjacs part is written like a saga of old. It's not bad but it didn't caught me right away. And the thing I dislike about these stuff: in this "saga", the Vlka calls themselves Space Wolves. Just a little detail but it's not consistent regarding the overall "new" Vlka Fenryka theme done by Dan and Chris.

[R_F_D]

@Kelborn, which edition are you reading?  I'm probably a chapter behind you, reading the LE version.  Does yours have a quirk near the beginning with Ulric the Slayer being there to advise Ragnar about the duel but then being shipped in from Fenris by Thunderfist for the Flesh Tearers ship?

[Kelborn]

Indeed that happens but what is a quirk?

Something like an interludum?

[Formosus XVI]

Indeed that happens but what is a quirk?

Something like an interludum?

 

A quirk is a mannerism or behavior strange enough to be noticeable, but not strange enough for the person or thing that has it to be considered insane or broken. In this context I think R_F_D means that it is a slight timeline error in the writing.

 

I haven't read the book yet, but it is probably next on my list after I finish the Word Bearer's trilogy (I'm almost done there). Seems like it will be worth it.

[b1soul]

At Gaius Point and Ragnar are to Flesh Tearers...what Savage Weapons are to Dark Angels

[A D-B]

I've not looked (I can't bear to, because I wrote it) but I think the Ulrik hiccup is the result of two drafts mashed together. I know it's only a few lines, but it bugs me to almost superhuman levels. Many apple-ogies.

 

I'm reading the first Sharpe novels right now, and there are a few similar inconsistencies in those that make me want to patiently regrow my hair to tear it all out.

[Kelborn]

AH!

Thanks for clarifying.

Good question. Have to check that.

*ninjad by Aaron himself*

Ok then, don't have to check that again. ^^

@Aaron: Think that you were asked this a couple of times so I'll try to ask differently. If you'd have the choice to either write a BA or a FT novel, which would you prefer? BAs for their existing out fleshed fluff and the possibility to add something new from you pov or rather the FT to write about a brutal, some might say bloodthirsty, chapter and add a noble but fatalistic side to it?

Though the Flesh Tearers are well known as well, there is (imho) enough space for improvement or editing.

Something like you did back then with the Night Lords. Antiheros per se but still, we're loving them.

[R_F_D]

I've not looked (I can't bear to, because I wrote it) but I think the Ulrik hiccup is the result of two drafts mashed together. I know it's only a few lines, but it bugs me to almost superhuman levels. Many apple-ogies.

 

I'm reading the first Sharpe novels right now, and there are a few similar inconsistencies in those that make me want to patiently regrow my hair to tear it all out.

 

Thanks Aaron, had just thought it was me suffering from the side-effects of a pharmacies worth of cold/flu medication.