R_F_D Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 So BL have announced today that book 3 will be released in 4 days time However all the T&Cs throughout its appearance on the website have said that copies will be despatched in 2 weeks time (w/c 23/01/17), leading me to assume that they're releasing the e-book on Friday, 10 days earlier. I don't want this thread to turn into the standard BL bashing, the publishing/corporate equivalent to Godwin's law it seems to me, but is there a genuine marketing/economic reason for doing this? I am assuming this will probably alienate/anger people who have paid the premium for the limited edition hard copy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Emm not really, people aren't buying the special edition to get it earlier, it's mostly to do with it being a collector's item that they know fans of the respective Primarch or legion will buy almost automatically. Tbh anyone who buys a 192 page book for 55 euro needs their head checked. It's why I passed on the Shrike LE. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4617607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 There's not going to be an e-book version of the Limited Edition as far as I know. The e-book comes out with the regular hardcover, in April. You're paying for the Limited Edition because it's 3 months earlier, and gorgeous. Tbh anyone who buys a 192 page book for 55 euro needs their head checked. It's why I passed on the Shrike LE. I think you have to consider that BL is the offender here, and the people who want to read it but have to pay this ridiculous price, the victim. That seems like a more regular way of thinking to me. Unless you think people paying 80 pounds for a miniature also need to get their head checked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4617688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Oh man here we go again! It is absolutely outrageous that BL charge some of the fees they do (and GW for miniatures) BUT nobody is holding a gun at anyone's head forcing them to buy. It is called market forces. If nobody (or far fewer people) bought them then BL would not sell them! Period! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4617748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 The ebook for Leman Russ is out along with the hardback, just like it was with Guilliman. I doubt they'd release an ebook for both Russ and Magnus on the same weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4617865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I read it that it was the ebook of Russ out with the hardback of Magnus. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ebooks for the win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4617871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 There's not going to be an e-book version of the Limited Edition as far as I know. The e-book comes out with the regular hardcover, in April. You're paying for the Limited Edition because it's 3 months earlier, and gorgeous. I recall that when Sons of Forge was released it was available as an e-book although it isn't available now. I would assume a similar principal here, given the T&Cs inidcate the book will be sent out from the 23rd? (Accepting that assumptions will make an ass out of....) The ebook for Leman Russ is out along with the hardback, just like it was with Guilliman. I doubt they'd release an ebook for both Russ and Magnus on the same weekend. I genuinely think that will be the case; given the above T&Cs I can't think of what else they would be call a release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 There's not going to be an e-book version of the Limited Edition as far as I know. The e-book comes out with the regular hardcover, in April. You're paying for the Limited Edition because it's 3 months earlier, and gorgeous. I recall that when Sons of Forge was released it was available as an e-book although it isn't available now. I would assume a similar principal here, given the T&Cs inidcate the book will be sent out from the 23rd? (Accepting that assumptions will make an ass out of....) The ebook for Leman Russ is out along with the hardback, just like it was with Guilliman. I doubt they'd release an ebook for both Russ and Magnus on the same weekend. I genuinely think that will be the case; given the above T&Cs I can't think of what else they would be call a release. There's not going to be an e-book release for Magnus this month. The e-book will be available alongside the regular trade hardcover, which is as it should be. This was the case with the previous two Primarchs novellas as well ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 So now I am just confused, what are the planning on releasing on Friday when they say that it won't be dispatched till w/c 23 Jan and the book has been available to pre-order since the start of December. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The Limited Edition hardcover. That is what is up for pre-order. Then in April, the regular hardcover and e-book follow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 OK Graham, lets get a Thousand Sons here, not an Outcast Dead. :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The Limited Edition hardcover. That is what is up for pre-order. Then in April, the regular hardcover and e-book follow. true - right in time for the LE of Perturabo to arrive. As scheduled. But till that time you should have a lot of spoilers to avoid, lol. OK Graham, lets get a Thousand Sons here, not an Outcast Dead. Being a pessimist I do not expect the level of TS - but it should definitely be better than Outcast Dead. Lol, everything is better than Outcast dead (I still struggle with that decision of Laurie to make it a numbered novel) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 The Limited Edition hardcover. That is what is up for pre-order. Then in April, the regular hardcover and e-book follow. Right, so call me dense but this just doesn't make sense to me - why say something is released and available when, further on, they state that the book won't be sent out for another 10 days. (I accept this is verging on BL bashing, which I am trying to avoid) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4618997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well the Leman Russ book also goes up for pre-order on the 14th and then ships on the 21st. It is simalar with this Magnus Limited Edition. But I agree it's weird, don't wait so long shipping it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4619266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Outcast dead was a super important numbered novel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4619298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 OK Graham, lets get a Thousand Sons here, not an Outcast Dead. :p Hope so Outcast Dead was barely readable ATS was great Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4619456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Outcast dead was a super important numbered novel. That's a joke or sarcasm? OK Graham, lets get a Thousand Sons here, not an Outcast Dead. Hope so Outcast Dead was barely readable ATS was great Barely readable indeed. Thousand Sons and Storm of Iron are 2 best books of McNeil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4627038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 Weirdly, just received my copy in the post - not complaining but highlighting the bizarreness given the dates mentioned above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4630402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel_of_Blood Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 From Facebook, lots of people have. But I still haven't Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4630416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 From Facebook, lots of people have. But I still haven't Patience like hope is a road to disappointment. By I do believe everything would be well brother Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4630536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_cse Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Weirdly, just received my copy in the post - not complaining but highlighting the bizarreness given the dates mentioned above. And how is it?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4630640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Weirdly, just received my copy in the post - not complaining but highlighting the bizarreness given the dates mentioned above. And how is it?! Second the question - it's time for a full spoiler thread for this book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4630698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just hope McNeill delivers We know he's capable of doing the TSons well...despite his non-TSons material being mediocre Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4630704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just hope McNeill delivers We know he's capable of doing the TSons well...despite his non-TSons material being mediocre From what I heard tis a good story from characters point of view. Full of nice little asides and bits and pieces. You really get a sense of the two of them as caring brothers, but ones who aren't blind to the flaws of the other. Between Perti and Magnus. And bad from battles point of view Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4631804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I've received my copy. Gorgeous. Price remains too much but it is a lovely item. I've also received the regular hardcover of Leman Russ at the same time. I think for the remaining 3 this year, Perturabo, Lorgar and Ferrus I will wait for the regular edition, or maybe just the LE of Ferrus. Though the LE of Perturabo looks great, that must be said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329664-primarchs-books-3-magnus-the-red-bls-release-strategy/#findComment-4638153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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