Can you legally create a Pre-Heresy Luna Wolves Army?

[dramagod2]

I'm a long time 40k player and I've recently started reading the HH novels which I'm loving. Naturally I already love the Luna Wolves but I'm not so interested in the sons of horus as a traitor legion. I don't know much about 30k, but is it possible to create a pre-heresy loyalist Luna Wolves Army with he current ruleset? I'd want to leave out anything "chaosy" and preferably include major characters before the turn (Horus, Abaddon, Loken, etc.). How would I go about creating this list wise? Again, I'm a 30k novice so I really appreciate any advice or suggestions. Thanks!

[Black Cohort]

Nothing I am aware of in the Sons of Horus specific rules is very chaosy. I know others havd done Luna Wolf armies before.

[Charlo]

If you are playing 30k, this is obviously much easier.

 

Just limit yourself to Loken and then.... Pretty much anything else is fair game from the Legion list! Bar maybe Juaterian etc.

[Harrowmaster]

Luna Wolves had Justaerin, they're mentioned in the first Heresy Novel

[GrandMagnus]

You could also use Abaddon, considering he was the first captain of the Luna Wolves. Basically just use SofH rules and give them the LW paintjob.

Also, I aprove of this idea, because any XVIth legion army is awesome

[Unknown Legionnaire]

Loken or a Delegatus / Praetor running Orphans of Betrayal.

There you go.

[Torvak Kyre]

If you're doing a pre heresy force I see no reason that you wouldn't be able to use any of the Sons of Horus units. None of them are chaotic. In competitive play you may not be able to use Loken with any of the other characters due to the Faction limitation but that would only apply for the competitive gamers.

[dramagod2]

Since I don't know the rules for the heresy units, by chaosy, I think I was referring more to the models. The SoH legion command and units all seem to be a bit chaosified with spikes and skulls etc. I'm more interested in putting together a clean legion of lunar wolves. Also, was the eye of Horus still present on them when they were Luna wolves or was that added when they changed the name? I know Horus always had one on his armor but I wasn't sure if his legion did as well.

 

How do the factions work? For instance what faction is Loken as opposed to Horus and abbadon? Thanks!

[IronDrake28]

There's no factions per sè like in 40k. Every legion, ad mech, solar auxilia etc are all seperate and can be allied together.

 

And in each Legion there are loyalist and traitors only characters. But if you're doing a pre-heresy army I don't see why you'd need to follow those restrictions imo.

[Harrowmaster]

The Legion symbol was a wolf over a crescent moon background

 

There's plenty of generic kits that work for any legion

[Torvak Kyre]

By faction I meant Loyalist and Traitor. I should have been more clear.

 

The way I'm building mine I'm allowing the Justaerin and Reavers to be quite spikey as they are known to be the most brutal of the legion. I'm also going to have some Eye of Horus symbols on the armour along with the Wolf and Moon to show that they're Horus' chosen few.

 

My regulalar troops (10th company) are much cleaner but still have some spikes and skulls. They are recruited from a gang culture after all.

[ROBOcaster]

Step one paint an army in white and black, step two use SOH Legion Astartes rule, very simple. The books already have rules in place for this sort of thing, limiting certain characters to Loyalist or Traitros, even down to RoW. Heresy is all about theme, if you make the army you can play the army.

[Black Cohort]

There is absolutely no requirement to use any sons of horus bits in your army, you can even convert generic models to be legion specific units if you want.

[GrandMagnus]

I'd say keep some of the spikes and skulls as part of the chtonian gang culture, after all even the luna wolves were recruited from Chtonia. As far as the eye of horus it is perfectly acceptable for LW considering it's Horuses personal icon.

 

Im looking forward to seeing what you do.

[dramagod2]

Thanks for all the feedback! Im super excited for this project as the novels have been really engrossing. I love the way the XVI Legion functions before everything goes to hell. I've finished the first two books in a week and I'm halfway through Galaxy in Flames. I was also able to get my hands on the Legiones Astartes Army List but there's still a few things that I'm confused about:

 

Factions/Sides?

So Some characters are Loyalist and Some are traitors? Is it possible to field Horus, Loken and Abbadon in a single force? I know it would be huge because of the points costs and percentage requirements but is it allowed in the rules? I'm not a super competitive player, but I just want to know in advance if that kind of thing would be within the rule set for a local event or something similar

 

Special Characters?

The Legiones Astartes seems to have all the normal units but none of the characters or legion specific units. Which book has the Sons of Horus or are they spread out?

 

Rites of War/Legion Traits

If I run my arms as Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus do they innately gain any special rules and abilities or do they have to take the legion specific rite of war? If they do have special rules will they remain if I field the army with a different non legion specific rite of war?

 

Thanks again for all the feedback and help! It is truly appreciated.

[Black Cohort]

In addition to the Astros legion book that has the main army list there is another red book that has all the legion specific stuff for all the legions covered before Inferno.

[Torvak Kyre]

Special Characters are only restricted by faction when playing competitive or Heresy (note not Crusade) campaigns. Using Loken with Abaddon should be fine. All space marines in the army automatically gain Sons of Horus rules. So this would be your whole army apart from vehicles (including) dreadnoughts and servitors.

 

You can find legion rules here https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Horus-Heresy-Legiones-Astartes-Age-of-Darkness-Legions