Jacinda Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This is me thinking mostly ... First off, all are from Our Martyred Lady. That would suguest black armor, red robes, white linings. Celestine wears the Arour of Saint Kat. The original Martyred Lady. She was the founder of the Order fo the Firey Heary -- blackarmor and robes. Of course bing the top dog she could wear whatever she felt like. Also Armor of Saint Kat is described as golden. Now I'm thinking golden armor for Cel but with the red and white robes of OoOML.The twins would have been wearing OoOML armor and robes when the fell so would be the same when revived. Even tho GW's site has them in gold armor as well. I don't like the idea of the twins suddenly having gold aror. It feels too much like Saint Celestine's children. Mini Cel's. However it does make them cohesive. Then there are the wings. Would metalic colors help reinforce the idea of them being mechanical? I don't want the mutated look of the old angelic conversions. However there is not any other drtail on the wings; neither organic or mechanic. Dove grey wings with white edging? Plain white? ... Dove grey base then dry brushed up to almost pure white. Yes. That . OK .. so how about .. Gold armor for Cel. Black for Elle and Gen. They all have gold backpacks. They all have black robes with white lining. Gold swords for all; red bolt pistols for the twins. Off white wings for the Saint. Does that sound reasonable? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizara Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well, it wouldn't look too out of place to give Celestine the Gold armor, and the twins the black armor. If you keep Celestines robes matching the rest of the Order, she would just look like the glowing living saint that way. I would say keep the twins in black back packs too, but make Celestines back pack gold, with shiny silver wings. yes the wings have no detail, but a wash can still be used to add depth between each feather section. I did my Celestine in black armor, but the wings I did in golden yellow. A metallic color would help keep them feeling less like real wings, I feel white feather sections make them feel too similar to natural wings, so if you want to avoid the natural look, avoid the white wings. However, if you are painting her in gold, giving her wings a silver or platinum look would help distinquish them, as well as keeping them metallic, and as the living saint of the emperor, you could create a few faithful fanatics who are carrying spotlights to shine on her, so she glistens and becomes the blinding beacon of hope she was made out to be in the Dawn of War game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 and as the living saint of the emperor, you could create a few faithful fanatics who are carrying spotlights to shine on her, so she glistens and becomes the blinding beacon of hope she was made out to be in the Dawn of War game. Now THAT would really get under Greyfax's skin :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Gaea Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Quick question, were the Gemini Twins Canoness of their [iNSERT PLACEHOLDER NAME FOR UNIT SIZE] according to their fluff? I know their stat lines don't agree, but for me Canoness are painted white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Per the fluff in The Fall of Cadia, the twins were indeed of the rank of Canoness, leaders of the Order of Our Martyred Lady who defended the Shrine of Saint Morrican during the Fall of Cadia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Gaea Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Awesome. So, white Gemini and a gold saint. Danke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 About the OML colors, they were black armour with black robes and red insides (the white was just the edges of the outsides), then changed their robes to red in and out after the third war for Armageddon, and by the look of the GW studio army they dropped the white trim. Also, note they appear to use white for their fleurs. The Order of the Valorous Heart, for example, appears to use silver for most all of the details on their armour. Sister Superiors seem to be denoted by brass/dull gold coloring on the winged "I" on their left shoulder if you look at the studio army. One other peculiarity is that the Sisters helmet visors are painted black in the 2E codex, and were switched to white in Witch Hunters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Per the fluff in The Fall of Cadia, the twins were indeed of the rank of Canoness, leaders of the Order of Our Martyred Lady who defended the Shrine of Saint Morrican during the Fall of Cadia.Per Codex Witch Hunters, ranks such as Canoness Commander and Canoness Preceptor exist. I would think they were one of these lower ranking Canonesses, not THE Canoness of the Order of Our Martyred Lady. I think they were just being referred to by shorthand (actually, I'll be honest, I don't think the writers knew or cared what exact rank they were -_-). It would make no sense for an order to have 2 head Canonesses just "becuz they're siblings." The Order, and the 2 Canonesses in question would be pretty out of character for Sisters to just casually disregard an Order's organization. Also, there is precedent for the shortening of a Canoness's title. The very section of codex WH that mentions subsidiary Canonesses mentions a Mission might be led by a Pakatine or "a more senior Canoness" of course this isn't exactly concrete proof (it could just be saying that Canonesses are senior to Palatines) but still. Edit: whoops. I'm not even sure you were trying to contradict what I've said here :P sorry. Apparently you triggered a bit of a rant . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Most likely they are prolly both cannones leading separate forces to Cadia. I'd like to think They might even be the Lead cannonnesses, but if so it'd be likely that they got battlefield promoted and didn't have time to sort out who was actually in charge, and with Celestine there, they don't need to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4640963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 They're different enough to be fine for variant colour schemes I think, GW has them gold for starters so I think you can paint them however you like and it'd work. That said, your scheme does sound good :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330503-painting-saint-cel-elle-and-gen/#findComment-4641069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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