bozo69pd Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hi there, been looking to try a game of 30k. As a CSM player however my chaos marines don't fit in too well with far too much mutation (Nurgle and Thousand Sons player here). However I have a good several thousand points of daemons. Have any of you played games against Daemons using 30k lists? I was researching it years ago, and it appears forgeworld and such just says use the daemons codex. As in bloodletters are simply bloodletters etc. Now obviously something like pink horror spam would just be OP I think in a 30k environment... but what about a using my slaanesh themed force? I feel my keeper of secrets, 60 daemonettes, and 6 fiends of slaanesh could be an army that isn't over the top in 30k? That is probably only about 1250-1500 points though. Anyone have any 30k experience fighting WITH/OR AGAINST daemons? Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvationOfReason Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Looks like we'll be getting a Daemon list/ruleset for 30k with Book 8, Angelus. I know I'd be fine with someone using a fluffy list, as long as it fit the setting. So, your proposed list of a KoS, Daemonettes and Fiends sounds fine by me. (Just remember though, in regards to your Daemonette swarm, Astartes can bring Typhons' as a LoW choice, which kinda pieplates hordes off the board) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4646212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 Yeah I actually think alot of my horde armies would just get vaporized in 30k with daemons lol. Will have to keep the points lower then to keep from them bringing out the big guns. Awesome to hear about daemons getting ruling for 30k though. I love having an army good for 40k, 30k, and AoS too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4646911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Once angelus drops I'll be using my Nurgle daemons as an ally for when I start assembling my corrupted death guard force :D daemons will be a very interesting addition to 30k and I can't wait to see if they get any new Heresy style units. Against marine forces I believe they will struggle but hopefully don't just copy and paste the 40k versions but come up with a new list that plays different from the 40k version which can combat the usual stuff seen in 30k Daemons certainly are the best all time generalist wargaming faction they can be used in multiple different different games which is awesome and works out well cost wise for daemon players as we can play different games with the same force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4646947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleRain Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I have just started a Daemons force and hoping to take it to an event in just under a month. It’s a 3.5K event so not sure how well it would go. Having not played them in 40K for a good 7-8 years I’m a little confused as to which is the rules to use with daemons at the moment. I currently have the Codex: Choas Daemons on my iPad however I saw there was an incursion version as well. Am I right in thinking that this is updated rules but not ones that are valid in 30K? I don’t mind using just the Codex: Choas Daemons, which I think is correct, but if invasion gave them a nerf don’t want to be seen as using a more powerful force than should be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4648869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Good luck with your project. I too happen to be a person who starts building their forces month or even less before the event starts. I guess it will take some allnighters to get stuff done :) iPad version of Chaos Daemons should contain the version you use in 30K and also contains newest FAQ updates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Daemon Incursion is incredibly strong in 40k. It makes many players hate daemon players, especially when combo'd with summoning. I wouldn't bring that to a 30k unless my opponent asked me to. If I recall 30k doesn't allow formations anyways (which is a nice change of pace). I only have a couple friends who play 30k, but I know one of them (he plays night lords) is very hesitant about playing my Nurgle Force. I assume it is because he thinks the 2+ cover saves on all my guys is annoying. It sounds like there are some 30k armies that could just roll right over that force at 3.5k points or so? I am just curious because I have over 10k points of Nurgle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Only in case of spamming Ignores Cover pieplates or stompin them with Knights. Out of those Knights are more common. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Only in case of spamming Ignores Cover pieplates or stompin them with Knights. Out of those Knights are more common. Flamers work great too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Salamanders would be nice opponent but who runs That much of flamers without knowing they'll face spawns of the Great Unclean One. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Salamanders would be nice opponent but who runs That much of flamers without knowing they'll face spawns of the Great Unclean One. I would warn my opponent prior to game day... and brace for flamers lol. I am mostly talking casual games here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Yeah they would be cool if you know what you are facing. I would love to play casual games against daemons sometimes. Daemon spawns are just another confirmation for the fact that flesh is weak and thus they must be purged in the name of the Emperor. Too bad only daemon players I know like only FaBa/AoS or don't have time to play because being a local gaming store owner. Luckily there is one guy starting to build Word Bearers so I might have matches including daemons in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleRain Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 All thanks for the feedback. I have my first game this weekend and so will see how it goes but that will be just a thrown together force with very little in the way of synergies, and lots of proxies. @jarkaira yes i imagine there will be a number of all nighters, though i know there are some model i can borrow from friends if i need a backup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4649916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hey, so you can technically already play daemons in 30k because of Samus' rules on forgeworld https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Samus.pdf I've played a game against daemons (before they got the buffed) and its incredibly annoying. You can watch me lose in horrible fashion here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdGKsBVsKho&ab_channel=CoverSlaves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4650614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hey, so you can technically already play daemons in 30k because of Samus' rules on forgeworld https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Samus.pdf I've played a game against daemons (before they got the buffed) and its incredibly annoying. You can watch me lose in horrible fashion here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdGKsBVsKho&ab_channel=CoverSlaves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4650714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Hi there, been looking to try a game of 30k. As a CSM player however my chaos marines don't fit in too well with far too much mutation (Nurgle and Thousand Sons player here). Just for your reference, by the time the Death Guard and Thousand Sons hit Terra, they were already massively corrupt and mutated. The DG got marooned and eaten by the destroyer plague en route, and arrived as plague marines, and the Thousand Sons had already been on the Planet of the Sorcerers for who knows how long before they joined the fight on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4652753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hi there, been looking to try a game of 30k. As a CSM player however my chaos marines don't fit in too well with far too much mutation (Nurgle and Thousand Sons player here). Just for your reference, by the time the Death Guard and Thousand Sons hit Terra, they were already massively corrupt and mutated. The DG got marooned and eaten by the destroyer plague en route, and arrived as plague marines, and the Thousand Sons had already been on the Planet of the Sorcerers for who knows how long before they joined the fight on Terra. Wow I didn't know DG actually made it to terra, I thought they just got marooned and after they missed the show said "aw shucks, well lets just go raid some imperial planets on the way to the eye" My TS are rubricae... which I do not think the rubric happened yet for the siege of terra? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330652-playing-with-my-daemons-in-30k/#findComment-4653126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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