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Looking pretty awesome!  Gotta admit I was kinda skeptical on concept art for the head you chose to follow but now seeing your vision of it in 3 dimensions - its looking amazing!

Like always thank you so much for sharing with the rest of us! 

 

I'm always excited to see a new post in one of your threads.

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Chin Guard Detail:

 

Back from Easter holiday; before I left I started the detail of the chin guard because I might have to put slots in the backing as well as the decorative spear shapes. The slots are ready made aligning points so duplicating the spear point is a cinch. 

 

 


http://i.imgur.com/i8pheXCl.jpg

 

I used a slightly modified tongue depresor to file the pieces to roughly the same shape and each pair is roughly 2 MM longer that the other S M L respectively

 


http://i.imgur.com/1IMWqXhl.jpg

 

Now that the three pair are rough shaped I can clean up the edges and thin them all down to the finished width.

 

This model head seems a lot easier than was the Warlord so far.

depthcharge12 Venerable Brother

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You're an absolute madman and I love it.

 

I feel like the 40k universe AdMech would be made up of people of your ilk. Maddeningly precise engineers with crazy ideas. :D

 

Keep up the good work. You should almost make a YouTube video log of you building it.

Blackadder Veteran

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OMG:

 

Seriously this is probably the most gratifying construct I have done in quite some time.

 


http://i.imgur.com/LpUWR8Tl.jpg

 

Everything is falling into place.

 


http://i.imgur.com/pmnMplOl.jpg

 

Even though the chin armour is too far forward (easily remedied) it gives a hint of the majesty to come.......

 


http://i.imgur.com/oeVW0v7l.jpg

 

It's still not too late to start following/building along on this construction. I foresee this will be quite something when finished. :blush:
thamier Veteran

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it looks great so far as always, but also wanted to pitch in a little, when looking at the artwork it seems like the sides of the jaw section is slightly curved, and the middle part under the nise and down to the chin is a flat strait panel then with the teo curved bits attached, what do you think? i could be off but not sure.

 

in anycase its awsome and so looking forward to seeing it once it's done.

Blackadder Veteran

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it looks great so far as always, but also wanted to pitch in a little, when looking at the artwork it seems like the sides of the jaw section is slightly curved, and the middle part under the nise and down to the chin is a flat strait panel then with the teo curved bits attached, what do you think? i could be off but not sure.

 

in anycase its awsome and so looking forward to seeing it once it's done.

 

The jaw/chin is nowhere near complete. Right now it is just stuck in behind the visor. There are actually cheek armour plates and large cylindrical assemblies that mount just below the visor and a pair of flanges at the lower edge of the chin armour. All that comes later this week as I complete the head assembly before returning to build the rest of the chest and pelvis.

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Not a disturbance at all; I appreciate all replies. It keeps me on my toes...........

 

Then A Miracle Happened:
 
But no, it didn't.... I was working without checking on the so far completed 'Skull' (well that's what it looks like to me) and I got away from the proper relative sizes. and so far it looks okay. The cheek armour under the visor seems about right especially since the large round canisters under the eye sockets still need to be added. 
 
http://i.imgur.com/kdIR6Gfl.jpg
 
I still have to pare down the nose and chin dart embellishments and I'm having difficulty reconciling the extra wide vertical strip under the nose; it looks too wide to me on the skull but less so on the 2D image. I like it thinner as it give the lower face a more refined look.
 
http://i.imgur.com/vUrJCtil.jpg
 
I'm going to have to bit the bullet and be less slavish to the prototype image and do what my instinct tells me looks best.....
 
So here is today's effort just tack glue in place temporarily.
 
http://i.imgur.com/yUS4JfDl.jpg
 
and I'm already not liking the chin dart (What was I thinking???) but the roughed in nose seems pretty close to what I looking for.
 
 
Blackadder Veteran

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Space Marine regalia:

 

Sorry, I got 'way too ahead of myself last night and in a fit of inspiration came up with the resolution to the nose and chin gewgaws  but also the iron prow boot.

 

First the boot as I don't know what the interior looks like I got the inspiration to make it a solid floor and use the slots for small arms loopholes, 

 


http://i.imgur.com/wDcB6Y2l.jpg

 

just about enough room for a coupl'a sharpshooters shoulder to shoulder firing down at retreating infantry probably not in 

 


http://i.imgur.com/5uE0rppl.jpg

 

The floor is 0.040 inch (1,0 MM) styrene which still needs to be trimmed to size but I still left one side not done so you can see the gusset strips needed to spread the floor. 70,0 MM (2.75 inches).

 


http://i.imgur.com/i71rWhTl.jpg

 

Gluing the strip inside first and letting dry for an hour 

 


http://i.imgur.com/7oBz3p8l.jpg

 

And finally finishing up the nose vents and rebuilding the chin gewgaw.

 


http://i.imgur.com/XhTN3b1l.jpg

Subtle Discord Venerable Brother

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Stop it! Stop it right now! This project is too amazing and inspiring. You've got to be fething kidding me, right? Now you've got me itching to build something big... really big. You're an enabler, you know that Blackadder? It may not be intentional (Or maybe it is?! *gives a suspicious glare*) but your antics are pure inspiration, urging those caught in the siren song to consider... consider the possibilities... of some scratch-building... aloud to run rampant and free! Well played.

 

At this point, I doubt you can, or ever will... but please don't ever stop if it's within your power. What you do is simply wonderful to watch unfold and take form, from idea to reality. Thank you very much for taking the time to document the process for people like myself, who 'need' to see how such excellent work is accomplished.

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Wow that last reply is a tough act to follow but ya caught me; I am subtly trying to get everyone into scratch building. Thanks for the glowing verbiage.  

 

 

Back On Track:

 

After quite a bit of editing I'm back on track With the nose and chin darts pretty much as I want them but of course they are still rough and need to be refined to a more elegant shape. I think it will be better to do these alterations whilst on the head a bit at a time so as not to compromise what is almost satisfactory.

 


http://i.imgur.com/Iy0I9z1l.jpg

 

I took the image below so the substructure can be seen. I was in a quandary how to make the flare on either side of the chin until I added the floor which made the whole thing easy plus it gave stability to the chin guard and a reason for being; i.e. a small arms fighting platform. I just made more work for myself as now I need to access and egress this area.

 


http://i.imgur.com/0ic6dSfl.jpg

 

The Space Marine is a bit large for this cramped area but a couple of cadians will fit nicely.

 


http://i.imgur.com/Pvw7iBMl.jpg

 

This side view shows I still have a lot of shaping to the flare to do.

 


http://i.imgur.com/QWxXLmHl.jpg

 

and front view likewise but there is a method to my madness because it is easier to sand and shape things smaller than it is to cut off and replace things with larger.

 


http://i.imgur.com/LgN0py8l.jpg

 

So just a couple of more images tour de force while I install the other flare today.

 


http://i.imgur.com/9xLnag7l.jpg

 


http://i.imgur.com/IPjFAHkl.jpg

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Blackadder Veteran

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Yeah So The Visor's Not Right; I Know: :D

 

It's like working a Rubik's Cube. You have to discard order to increase order. I have figured out the mechanism to pin the side panels back and still allow for the movement and easy disassembly otherwise I could jut glue and be done with it.

 

 


http://i.imgur.com/4iK9lJHl.jpg

 

But what I am really showing is the first layer of the reinforcing gussets that I have to admit are somewhat crude.

 

The side view seems reminiscent of the Batman comic Joker Which may or may not be a good thing

 


http://i.imgur.com/F2GJRLul.jpg

 

The rear quarter view show there is still a tremendous amount of detailing to be done. But fun none the less. 

 

 


http://i.imgur.com/acYFw8Cl.jpg

 

And of course the hidden areas that no one will ever see once all the magnets and clips are installed to keep the head together.

 


http://i.imgur.com/bQhzqH3l.jpg

 

Finally my unpatented  slide mechanism for easy removal of the visor.

 


http://i.imgur.com/ZkOCMk4l.jpg

 

Gawd, I still have to add lighting to this as well!

Cryptix Veteran

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Stop doing that thing where you make me want to go out and buy something to build but then I remember I can't because of 8th edition.

 

Beautiful work, even if I don't understand a decimal of it.

Blackadder Veteran

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Heh, Heh, Heh! All the part of my fiendish plan to populate the world with Do-it-yourself Craftsmen.

 

Artistic Interpretation:
 
That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
 
My Invictus skull differs from the image in many respects. Some as corrected projection errors  such as the wrap around eyes, some as untranslatable 2D to 3D projection discrepancies and some as, "I just think it looks better that way." larger darts on the helmet, shorter and wider chin. Yadda yadda.........
 
and some with flat out mistakes on my part in building without measuring.
 
http://i.imgur.com/3vx0u6Ul.jpg
 
The flat iron flare of the chin in my model is almost twice the size of the image but I like the side view on the image but not the front view so I made the front view conform to the side and, walla, extra wide flange.
 
http://i.imgur.com/A4o2hPal.jpg
 
The side view is pathetic but it'll due for the nonce. I just tack glued everything together so the helmet tips back and the chin doesn't jut as it should and the visor is too vertical but you can get the idea.
 
You can see by the images below that as of this time I intend to have the Chin, Visor and Helmet as one piece. This may change after I make the interior cockpit area but I am having difficulty mating the visor to the chin/cheek plates.
 
http://i.imgur.com/YnX8SS6l.jpg
 
http://i.imgur.com/T6pzCvml.jpg
 
Suddenly It's Martini Time.
lionofjudah Venerable Brother

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Good god emperor on the throne...once again I come back by and your progress and attention to minutiae are staggering!

 

How many seats in your command cabin? Will you have viewscreens as well as the view ports of the eye slots?

Blackadder Veteran

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Eyes Have it:

 

 

A Princep and an Inquistioner plus two er Pilots I guess you would call them. Screens but no viewports Windshields that high up would be probably a hazard more than a plus  

 

 

 

Preparing to add the wiring and LEDs some time this weekend so first I needed to know where the eye socket lenses would go and how they would fit. Getting the angles of the base of each lens frame was quite a chore as my sockets aren't 100% mirror images of each other depthwise. Fortunately they are within a quarter of a millimeter the same in socket size about 0.010th of an inch; yeah, I know, I was flabbergasted as well when I actually measured them.

 


http://i.imgur.com/K6cmbJQl.jpg

 

Anywho I be gluing on the rivets this evening which should consume a good portion of my relaxation time 

 


http://i.imgur.com/XuegBdjl.jpg

 

Meanwhile here's an image I found that shows the relative sizes of my Warlord to this new construction although I think the white shirted figure at the foot of the Warlord is too small.

 


http://i.imgur.com/w4oB6XMl.jpg

 

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Thanks for the reply,

 

Subject To Change:
 
I changed my mind about what to work on last night. I had it in mind to detail the rivets but an idea occurred to me as to how to fasten the visor to the helmet so I went with that.
 
I used a slip joint slide to fasten the horizontal stabilizer to the vertical stabilizer on my Thunderhawk so I know it will work and as long as it isn't treated too rough. 
 
We see below the result of an hour or so fiddling and waiting for the various glued parts to dry; a slide rail on the helmet and a slot to receive the rail on the visor. The tolerance is snug enough to hold the visor in place but sufficiently loose to allow ease of removal.
 
http://i.imgur.com/2XqfFTal.jpg
 
I really should learn to take videos for these demos but slipped half on.
 
http://i.imgur.com/rZNkq28l.jpg
 
and slid home.
 
http://i.imgur.com/qfw8zUEl.jpg
 
The beauty of this arrangement is it allows me to complete the visor lighting at a later date after I finish the interior cockpit assembly.
 
And a few images of the visor in place and at the proper angle now:
 
http://i.imgur.com/X96YCual.jpg
 
http://i.imgur.com/4ZwiyCjl.jpg
 
http://i.imgur.com/HgVoY7Yl.jpg
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OMG

 


http://i.imgur.com/891iEx0l.jpg

 


http://i.imgur.com/fOSqA5Sl.jpg

 


http://i.imgur.com/BxeWeYQl.jpg

 

Words fail me.

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