1ncarnadine Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Generally speaking the LE's do not stand on their own, in the sense that if they were available alongside the regular hardback/e-book, people just wouldn't buy them in significant numbers. It's exactly why BL inserts the exclusivity into it. You can get the LE, but the regular release will "follow some time down the line". And that is what gets people to buy that LE. That’s the problem, in my humble opinion. If that’s the only way you can sell out a product, you should probably reconsider what you’re offering. In this specific case I don't think that would have been a problem. ADB tends to sell pretty well.* It kind of pisses me off that we can't get JUST a limited edition without all the other add-ons, even though they were pretty neat with this one. They know people will buy ADB and tacked on as many other things to jack the price up as they could. I'd love to see what they're making above COG on this. *I do remember that the Black Legion LE seemed to take a while to sell though? Taliesin and Marshal Loss 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5274080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I think Black Legion didn’t sell as the limited edition design was rubbish compared to most of the ones we have had over the last few years. It didn’t even have the additional art Talon of Horus had. It was a very lazy and not a very special edition. JH79, Taliesin and Felix Antipodes 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5274389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 How well a LE sells definitely depends on the LE. There have been only two LE I wanted to get my hands on so far. One is the Fabius Bile one but I learned it exists waaay too late and the other is this one but after I already switched to audiobooks since I don't really have time to read anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5274790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splog Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 LEs that are part of a series, and in particular are not book 1 may suffer in sales due to those who like ‘collections’ or ‘consistency’ in book format. I had decided to not get any of the Black Legion series until it was finished. I changed my mind after reading Master of Mankind, and at that point would have bought the Black Legion LE if Talon of Horus was still available in LE. It wasn’t, so I got them in hardback instead and I think I had to source a second hand copy of Talon in hardback. So, BL lost out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5274861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I'd ask you, folks, to take any further discussion about why Limited Editions (don't) do well to a new thread so that we can keep this one focussed on the Emperor's Spears novel. Thank you. Phoebus and Kelborn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5275114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Picked this up at Warhammerfest, just finished it. What a great book! Not that I expected different. Even teared up at one point. Seriously considering these guys for my Space Marine force. Kilcin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5315593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcin Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Looks like you can pre-order the regular version of Spear of the Emperor tomorrow and there is a short story of the Emperor's Spears by ADB in June's White Dwarf. Aaron Dembski-Bowden – The Emperor’s Spears Black Library author and fanatical hobbyist Aaron Dembski-Bowdenspeaks to White Dwarf about his love of Warhammer, his writing career and how he went about creating his own Chapter of Space Marines in his novel, Spear of the Emperor (available to pre-order from tomorrow!). He then treats us to a new short story about them, ‘Son of the Storm World’. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/06/07/white-dwarf-preview-junegw-homepage-post-2/ Also found there is going to be an audiobook narrated by Kelly Hotten coming out on June 15th. Edited June 7, 2019 by Kilcin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5327794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Great news. Seems like I'll get a new WD this month. ;) RikuEru 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5327806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 That’s great, the white dwarf shorts are a real treat. They have been superb of recent. Getting one from ADB is a nice suprise! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5327822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Pre-orders are up, will be able to download from June 15th. https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/new/spear-of-the-emperor-ebook.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5328224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Wooo, at last! Thank you for shopping with us. This content will be delivered wirelessly to your device and will be stored in Your Kindle Library. Spear Of The Emperor (Warhammer 40,000) Kindle Edition Feel like I've been waiting years for this. Which is true Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5331751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just downloaded. Going to see if ADB can convince me to get into the Dark Imperium. Petitioner's City and 1ncarnadine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5331757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 So so far I haven't seen any real nod to size difference between Amadeus and the Spears (I just got to the arming room chapter where we meet Brêac's command squad) - is that ever clear or just things that could be allusively read one way or another? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5331799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 So so far I haven't seen any real nod to size difference between Amadeus and the Spears (I just got to the arming room chapter where we meet Brêac's command squad) - is that ever clear or just things that could be allusively read one way or another? I -think- there is, later on, in a scene were many Marines are on zhe bridge of a ship. I think. And I think the Narrator mentions it in a side-sentence once, the "increased height" of the Primaris or so. It's quite some time ago that I read it, BUT... ((Do NOT read this, until you finish the book! Major spoiler!)) The scene where Anuradha wqtches the sleeping/comatose Amadeus sleep through the literal growing pains of his bones actually breaking to heal bigger, makes it absolutely obvious. Also the fact he has to get a full new suit of armor that she has to reconfigure to his old specifications and integrate his specialized systems. Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5331807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamedake88 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm about half way through the audio book and the story isn't half bad. The narration is awful though. This is no fault of the narrator and I want to stress that. She tries, god bless her, but whenever she puts on a voice for one of the marine characters, it's jarring to say the least. The voices for the Spears range from seductive Russian spy straight out of a Bond film to a sad tree frog warbling its' lament. And here I thought these dudesmen were Greek. As of right now I can't make any final judgments on the book as a totality but there are many positives with the glaring weakness of the Mentor's mien. He has all the personality of charm of your local DMV on a Monday morning. Thank god his help more than makes up for him being made out of wood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5331917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm about half way through the audio book and the story isn't half bad. The narration is awful though. This is no fault of the narrator and I want to stress that. She tries, god bless her, but whenever she puts on a voice for one of the marine characters, it's jarring to say the least. The voices for the Spears range from seductive Russian spy straight out of a Bond film to a sad tree frog warbling its' lament. And here I thought these dudesmen were Greek. As of right now I can't make any final judgments on the book as a totality but there are many positives with the glaring weakness of the Mentor's mien. He has all the personality of charm of your local DMV on a Monday morning. Thank god his help more than makes up for him being made out of wood. Not that it changes the rest of the point, but the Emperors Spears aren’t Greek/Greek inspired. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5331996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I'm about half way through the audio book and the story isn't half bad. The narration is awful though. This is no fault of the narrator and I want to stress that. She tries, god bless her, but whenever she puts on a voice for one of the marine characters, it's jarring to say the least. The voices for the Spears range from seductive Russian spy straight out of a Bond film to a sad tree frog warbling its' lament. And here I thought these dudesmen were Greek. As of right now I can't make any final judgments on the book as a totality but there are many positives with the glaring weakness of the Mentor's mien. He has all the personality of charm of your local DMV on a Monday morning. Thank god his help more than makes up for him being made out of wood. Not that it changes the rest of the point, but the Emperors Spears aren’t Greek/Greek inspired. Yeah, like, ADB has mentioned it a few times. They're Post-Roman Britons, so Celts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazguire Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I really enjoyed this novel. ADB is just a great writer, plain and simple, and his love for the source material is obvious. It makes it easy to become immersed in his novels and thoroughly enjoy them. The book ended in a way I didn't expect: the book leads you to believe there will be the typical big battle between Space Marines and traitor but veers to the left very quickly, exposing the corruption and complete insanity of the Imperium. The Mentor Legion, in the lack of material actually written about them, still feel like a very fleshed out Chapter. It becomes completely believable that they would be allied to the Inquisition in respect to assassinating the Celestial Lions. Amadeus is a singular character in BL lore, in my opinion, and hammers home the differences in that Chapter to the run of the mill "bolter porn" Chapters we often get lumped with. Ekene's assassination was very well done and unexpected. The Celestial Lions cannot catch a break and, with Elysium destroyed, are now for all intents and purposes an extinct Chapter. Paraphrasing Amadeus; "the Inquisition could not resist twisting the knife one last time", despite the need for every available Astartes to defend the Veil (and the Imperium generally). The Inquisition, or at least a faction of it, would rather lose a vast swathe of Imperial space if it preserves their power and status. This book did not feel like the story of the Emperor's Spears, though there is a focus on them as the main characters. It feels more like a character study on the divided nature of the Imperium since the eruption of the Great Rift, the insane politicking of the Imperium despite the enemy literally being at the gates and how Space Marine Chapters can go rogue for reasons other than "Chaos told us to". The Battle of the Hex was great - really highlighted how terrifying it would be for the Gellar Field to fail while in the Warp and what can go wrong, even if that shield is only down for a very short period. Kelborn, Morovir, Fire Golem and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Downloaded and ready to go. Really looking forward to this. Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Been waiting for this, just started. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Anyone got the WD of June and read the short about the Spears by Aaron? If so, could someone elaborate? Is it good? Any new stuff? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Anyone got the WD of June and read the short about the Spears by Aaron? If so, could someone elaborate? Is it good? Any new stuff? Subscribers should start getting theirs this week. I’m hoping mine comes today. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Just read the White Dwarf short. It’s very brief, and doesn’t give anything new really that the novel doesn’t, although people always manage to read more into things that I miss. Good though (obviously). It’s about Anuradha and Morcant watching the vid feed from her Servo Skull from one of the battles in the novel. Edited June 17, 2019 by fire golem Knockagh, Kelborn and Sandlemad 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5332894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The audio narrator should not have done those accents for the Lions. It was really uncomfortable. JH79 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5333227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcin Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I'm about half way through the audio book and the story isn't half bad. The narration is awful though. This is no fault of the narrator and I want to stress that. She tries, god bless her, but whenever she puts on a voice for one of the marine characters, it's jarring to say the least. The voices for the Spears range from seductive Russian spy straight out of a Bond film to a sad tree frog warbling its' lament. And here I thought these dudesmen were Greek. As of right now I can't make any final judgments on the book as a totality but there are many positives with the glaring weakness of the Mentor's mien. He has all the personality of charm of your local DMV on a Monday morning. Thank god his help more than makes up for him being made out of wood. Yea, having read the book a while ago and starting to listen to the audiobook yesterday, it threw me for a loop when the narrator used a Russian accent for a voice of an ES marine; really took me out of the story. Up until that point I was fine with the voices she had used. JH79 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/42/#findComment-5333228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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