Helias_Tancred Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 So far I like it. He did what I considered one of the biggest challenges in doing a Blood Angel story from the ground up, and that is get human life on Baal Secondus right! Mission achieved! Not giving out any spoilers but I will say this, Baal Secondus has a "Sell Town". When I first saw it I immediately thought of Barter Town from the Mad Max/Road Warrior movies. ROFL. I've been a fan of Guy Haley's works leading up to his authorship of the Horus Heresy novel Praetorian of Dorn. I've enjoyed his short stories and audio dramas. I always thought he was one of the low flying authors of Black Library that were up and coming. So far so good on Dante IMO. Demoulius and Spyros 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Hype level multiplied! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4672466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServoBadger Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'm less than half way through it but it's so, so good. After the disappointments (for me, anyway!) of previous Blood Angels novels, this is everything I never knew I wanted. I have Monday off work. It's time to try painting red again. Demoulius, Chaplain Gunzhard, Silverson and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4672686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Excellent Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4672838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Ordered the limited edition today. Now I just need to get a clear acrylic book stand so I can put in on display in my Blood Angels display case once I finished reading it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'm less than half way through it but it's so, so good. After the disappointments (for me, anyway!) of previous Blood Angels novels, this is everything I never knew I wanted. I have Monday off work. It's time to try painting red again. I don't mean to whine but its about time someone starts doing our chapter right by Black Library material. Fear to Tread, while not bad, did not, in my opinion, do us proper justice. It made Sanguinius seem too naive for one. The only good BA material prior to Zephon in Master of Mankind, was the Space Hulk novel Sin of Damnation (very dry though), the novella Sanguis Irae, most of the assortment of Blood Angel short stories (especially Honours), and that is about it sadly. Lemartes was good in that it did the esteemed chaplain and his death company well, but I wasn't a fan of how it treated Castigon and the 4th. I could ramble on, but yes Dante so far is a pleasant surprise, and it sounds like the latest Mephiston novel is good too! The latter is the next one I will get. /thankful Chaplain Gunzhard and Demoulius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 By the Blood of Sanguinius! Sanguinius' vision as written on the scrolls! :-O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just finished the book. Can confirm it is well worth the read. I've been quite happy with how the Blood Angels have been portrayed in both Dante and Mephiston's books. I read both of them in one sitting, counldn't put them down. By the Blood of Sanguinius! Sanguinius' vision as written on the scrolls! :-O What happened after was quite sad also. Maybe if it happened a few more times though... Maybe Dante could actually be fully revitalised and instead of simply buying a few more seconds, he could win? Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServoBadger Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Finished the ebook, ordered the limited edition hardback. Never done that before with any Black Library stuff. Sun Reaver and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Interesting. Seems Baal could well fall to the Tyranids and the Blood Angels go to Terra to protect the Emperor in his final moments. I really enjoyed that book, the way they portrait a man fighting such a long war. He really is a shining beacon of nobility. Edited March 5, 2017 by Rafen IX BLACK BLΠFLY and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Also I'm intrigued by the fact that there is a pure source of Sanguinius' blood in cased in the gem on Dante's armour. Helias_Tancred and Sun Reaver 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdle-durdle Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 So at one point, Dante gets angry when the angels vermillion are mentioned. According to the wikis, they're secretive, but what exactly is Dante made angry? Or is it intentionally vague? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 So at one point, Dante gets angry when the angels vermillion are mentioned. According to the wikis, they're secretive, but what exactly is Dante made angry? Or is it intentionally vague? A BA chaplain apparently finds something in their fortress monastery that enrages Dante and he won't speak of them. Although one of the captains is petitioning for their forgiveness. Helias_Tancred and Demoulius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdle-durdle Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I saw that part, but is that as specific as it gets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That's all you get brother. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4673987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdle-durdle Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Must've been something horrifying if that's a no-go, but Dante is chill with the excommunicated knights of blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Must've been something horrifying if that's a no-go, but Dante is chill with the excommunicated knights of blood. High Lords of Terra and their burocratic organisation probably hold less weight when judging a son of sanguinius than one of his own advisors (the chaplain) Demoulius and Panzer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdle-durdle Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just finished reading the book. Went in expecting bolted porn. Very surprised by the well developed plot. Definitely fleshes out dantes character and really drives home the predicament of the blood angels. Time to read mephistons book! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcrat Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Would this be a good starter book for someone (me) reading about Blood Angels for the first time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServoBadger Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I would say yes... and no. If you're up to date on the current situation as of the end of Shield of Baal: Exterminatus then yes. If not, I would suggest reading up on that first. Mcrat 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasuria Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I haven't read the book yet (I'm waiting for the french translation ... I don't really mind reading it in english but I like having my collection in the same language :')). I'm curious though : a lot of the BL fluff is not considered canon as far as I know, is it different for this book ? (and mephiston's ?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 BL stuff is largely canon. It's more a matter of replacement. The newer material from any source tends to take precedence, and some stuff is a bit more "loose" than others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasuria Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Sorry I should have said "BL fluff for BA" as I've seen here and there that the Rafen story is not compatible with the current timeline. (unless I'm mistaken ?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I haven't read the book yet (I'm waiting for the french translation ... I don't really mind reading it in english but I like having my collection in the same language :')). I'm curious though : a lot of the BL fluff is not considered canon as far as I know, is it different for this book ? (and mephiston's ?) "Mon pauvre compatriote", I think that it will be ice age before Black Library make the traductions of Dante (and Mephiston)^^. Also, since the whole Warhammer Lore have been created by English people, it only make more sense to read Fluff part in English. Plus, it is always a good opportunity to maintain/up your english fluency level. (Reading a text in another language is egal to reading this text twice, for you not only read, but traduct and because of this analyse/remember more closely the informations.) (But i still hate that they didn't fully translate our 7th ed. codex (like the 5th that was fully translated), a Sanguinary Priest is a "Prêtre Sanguinien" ! ^^). It would be a waste not to read those two new Blood Angels novels, for they really extend our background from level 2-3 to level 8-9. (Personally, i'm waiting to have my copies of the books, though, i will have to wait a few weeks before this happen^^.) Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4674967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) So at one point, Dante gets angry when the angels vermillion are mentioned. According to the wikis, they're secretive, but what exactly is Dante made angry? Or is it intentionally vague? A BA chaplain apparently finds something in their fortress monastery that enrages Dante and he won't speak of them. Although one of the captains is petitioning for their forgiveness. I'm willing to bet it has something to do with their thirst for blood, that was very uncouth. Edited March 6, 2017 by Helias Tancred Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331600-dante-by-guy-haley/#findComment-4675041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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