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Can someone help me figure out which base sizes go with which minis? While attempting to organize my unpainted models, I managed to knock all the bases onto the floor. Everything that got mixed up is Legion and Mechanicum FW stuff. Legion infantry is good to go. Confused minis are:

 

 

A couple of praetors

Contemptor, Tartaros, Deredeo, and Leviathan dreads

Thallax, vorax, domitar, myrmidon, castellax, ursarax, and magos dominus

 

Thanks for any help you can give.

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I have a similar question (concerning 40k though):

 

I heard regular servo armour marines can be built on 25 and 32 mm bases, as one chooses.

 

1) Is this correct? And true for all the marines or only some of the kits?

2) What would you recommend?

3) Would you expect from GW in future to only use 32 mm?

4) Will 25 mm bases stay legal indefinitely? (I know there are some clairvoyants here.)

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I have a similar question (concerning 40k though):

 

I heard regular servo armour marines can be built on 25 and 32 mm bases, as one chooses.

 

1) Is this correct? And true for all the marines or only some of the kits?

2) What would you recommend?

3) Would you expect from GW in future to only use 32 mm?

4) Will 25 mm bases stay legal indefinitely? (I know there are some clairvoyants here.)

 

1. Yes this is correct. GW says you use whichever base looks better for you. The only reason they are on 32mm now is because GW decided it would look better. They used to all be on 25mm and many kits still only come with 25mm. The rules generally say to "use the base that comes with the model" but there are often several exceptions to this rule such as old models not having bases, old models having wrong size bases, buying used models, having a larger, decorated base, etc.

 

2. 25mm if you're interested in hiding the models behind buildings or fitting more in melee. Since templates no longer exist in 8E the weakness of being hit by more templates is gone. 32mm if you are interested in decorating the base, like the look of the larger base, or want to get into melee range faster. Also you need to consider your model storage. If you use boxes or foam trays that have cut out holes, they may not fit 32mm bases if they were cut for 25mm.

 

3. They are already only using 32mm.

 

4. Don't know about this one, but most likely yes. The original Terminators that come on 25mm are still legal, although many players would prefer you to put them on 40mm.

 

If you are ever not sure about something, bigger is always the safer option. It is almost never okay to go smaller than normal unless in rare situations. For example, nobody is going to allow you to put a Dreadnought on a 25mm base, but GW themselves have put 25mm models such as Krom Dragongaze on a 40mm base because his legs and base did not fit on a regular base.

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Thanks.

So if you are starting a new SM army or are properly basing an old one (now in 8th where big bases are not giving any advantage if I get it right), and are going to put some effort into minis and bases making it very unlikely to rebase them at later point, would you recommend using 32mm from the beginning?

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I have a similar question (concerning 40k though):

 

I heard regular servo armour marines can be built on 25 and 32 mm bases, as one chooses.

 

1) Is this correct? And true for all the marines or only some of the kits?

 

It is correct. Over the years though, regular power-armoured Space marines have been sculpted in increasing size, and about three years ago GW started putting thier new SM models on 32mm bases by default. Why 32mm? Well, because it is exactly halfway between the previous 25mm and 40mm diameters, rounding down to the nearest 1mm.

 

 

2) What would you recommend?

 

I would suggest putting your Marines on 32mm. The only exceptions to this are old Rogue Trader/1st Edition models (which are quite small), and any models which are already on custom/display bases (no need to spoil nicely-painted finished models!). For a good example of why I think the 25mm bases look small on newer models, see my own efforts on 25mm here:

 

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/MajorGilbear/Dark%20Angels%20Plog/DA%20Tac%20Squad%201%201_zpsxewpygz7.jpg

 

As you can see, although they just about fit, the bases do look a bit too small for them.

 

If you need to make your bases bigger, but don't want to re-base, you may find this article on Tale of Painters useful. There are a number of different base-adaptor products though, so if you choose to go down this route, it's worth looking around a bit first to see what suits you best.

 

 

3) Would you expect from GW in future to only use 32 mm?

 

Yes, and in fact that's now the default base-size that comes with current SM troops.

 

 

4) Will 25 mm bases stay legal indefinitely? (I know there are some clairvoyants here.)

 

Yes.

 

If there's one thing about GW that they are "good" about, it's that there is normally a reasonable allowance made for layers with existing collections.

 

Whilst super-competitive players may insist otherwise, there are always a variety of pros and cons to models on bigger/smaller base sizes which pretty much even out the decision somewhat. As long as players are not obviously modelling for a specific advantage, I cannot imagine any normal opponents ever having an issue with it either.

 

 

So if you are starting a new SM army or are properly basing an old one (now in 8th where big bases are not giving any advantage if I get it right), and are going to put some effort into minis and bases making it very unlikely to rebase them at later point, would you recommend using 32mm from the beginning?

 

I would recommend using 32mm from the beginning, regardless of game (dis)advantages. They fit the models better and look appropriate.

 

Where older models like the 1E/2E metal Terminators came on 25mm bases, I would not require anyone to re-base. However, if anybody asked me what to put them on, I would be tempted to suggest 32mm rather than 40mm, as those smaller old models really look overwhelmed on the modern 40mm Terminator bases (even if you add some scenic basing). This is an example of a sensible compromise, where the old bases were too small, but the new ones are too big.

 

In the end, the base sizes that look and fit the models best has always the #1 guide to basing in GW games for as long as I can remember (which is about 25+ years). My advice to you would be to use that rule of thumb over and above anything else, and I don't imagine you will ever have a problem - even in a tournament.

 

 

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