Semper Fortis Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Can someone help me figure out which base sizes go with which minis? While attempting to organize my unpainted models, I managed to knock all the bases onto the floor. Everything that got mixed up is Legion and Mechanicum FW stuff. Legion infantry is good to go. Confused minis are: A couple of praetors Contemptor, Tartaros, Deredeo, and Leviathan dreads Thallax, vorax, domitar, myrmidon, castellax, ursarax, and magos dominus Thanks for any help you can give. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 The Contemptor is a 60mm dreadnought, the Deredeo and leviathan are on 80mm bases, Tartaros on the standard 40mm termi bases, I'd imagine the praetors being on 32mm if they're marine sized. Sorry I can't help with the rest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4672918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
armarnis Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 praetors are 32mm for servo, 40mm for tda contemptor is 60mm, tartaros is 40mm (also every other terminator variant), deredeo and leviathan both go on 80mm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4672921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Thallax and Ursurax are 40mm Domitar is 60mm I think the Vorax are 50mm, Myrmidons are 32mm, Magus Dominus is 40mm and Castellax are 60mm - but I can't confirm them on the FW website. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4672966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Old power armor Praetors were 25mm, new ones are 32mm, so either works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4673146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fortis Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Thanks, brothers. That helps a great deal. It would have been much easier if they weren't just piles of bits at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4673174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kua Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I have a similar question (concerning 40k though): I heard regular servo armour marines can be built on 25 and 32 mm bases, as one chooses. 1) Is this correct? And true for all the marines or only some of the kits? 2) What would you recommend? 3) Would you expect from GW in future to only use 32 mm? 4) Will 25 mm bases stay legal indefinitely? (I know there are some clairvoyants here.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4784410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kua Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (You don’t need to answer all questions at once if this is what is stopping you from giving some advice. ^^) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4785617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I have a similar question (concerning 40k though): I heard regular servo armour marines can be built on 25 and 32 mm bases, as one chooses. 1) Is this correct? And true for all the marines or only some of the kits? 2) What would you recommend? 3) Would you expect from GW in future to only use 32 mm? 4) Will 25 mm bases stay legal indefinitely? (I know there are some clairvoyants here.) 1. Yes this is correct. GW says you use whichever base looks better for you. The only reason they are on 32mm now is because GW decided it would look better. They used to all be on 25mm and many kits still only come with 25mm. The rules generally say to "use the base that comes with the model" but there are often several exceptions to this rule such as old models not having bases, old models having wrong size bases, buying used models, having a larger, decorated base, etc. 2. 25mm if you're interested in hiding the models behind buildings or fitting more in melee. Since templates no longer exist in 8E the weakness of being hit by more templates is gone. 32mm if you are interested in decorating the base, like the look of the larger base, or want to get into melee range faster. Also you need to consider your model storage. If you use boxes or foam trays that have cut out holes, they may not fit 32mm bases if they were cut for 25mm. 3. They are already only using 32mm. 4. Don't know about this one, but most likely yes. The original Terminators that come on 25mm are still legal, although many players would prefer you to put them on 40mm. If you are ever not sure about something, bigger is always the safer option. It is almost never okay to go smaller than normal unless in rare situations. For example, nobody is going to allow you to put a Dreadnought on a 25mm base, but GW themselves have put 25mm models such as Krom Dragongaze on a 40mm base because his legs and base did not fit on a regular base. Kua 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4785629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kua Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Thanks. So if you are starting a new SM army or are properly basing an old one (now in 8th where big bases are not giving any advantage if I get it right), and are going to put some effort into minis and bases making it very unlikely to rebase them at later point, would you recommend using 32mm from the beginning? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4786623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I have a similar question (concerning 40k though): I heard regular servo armour marines can be built on 25 and 32 mm bases, as one chooses. 1) Is this correct? And true for all the marines or only some of the kits? It is correct. Over the years though, regular power-armoured Space marines have been sculpted in increasing size, and about three years ago GW started putting thier new SM models on 32mm bases by default. Why 32mm? Well, because it is exactly halfway between the previous 25mm and 40mm diameters, rounding down to the nearest 1mm. 2) What would you recommend? I would suggest putting your Marines on 32mm. The only exceptions to this are old Rogue Trader/1st Edition models (which are quite small), and any models which are already on custom/display bases (no need to spoil nicely-painted finished models!). For a good example of why I think the 25mm bases look small on newer models, see my own efforts on 25mm here: http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/MajorGilbear/Dark%20Angels%20Plog/DA%20Tac%20Squad%201%201_zpsxewpygz7.jpg As you can see, although they just about fit, the bases do look a bit too small for them. If you need to make your bases bigger, but don't want to re-base, you may find this article on Tale of Painters useful. There are a number of different base-adaptor products though, so if you choose to go down this route, it's worth looking around a bit first to see what suits you best. 3) Would you expect from GW in future to only use 32 mm? Yes, and in fact that's now the default base-size that comes with current SM troops. 4) Will 25 mm bases stay legal indefinitely? (I know there are some clairvoyants here.) Yes. If there's one thing about GW that they are "good" about, it's that there is normally a reasonable allowance made for layers with existing collections. Whilst super-competitive players may insist otherwise, there are always a variety of pros and cons to models on bigger/smaller base sizes which pretty much even out the decision somewhat. As long as players are not obviously modelling for a specific advantage, I cannot imagine any normal opponents ever having an issue with it either. So if you are starting a new SM army or are properly basing an old one (now in 8th where big bases are not giving any advantage if I get it right), and are going to put some effort into minis and bases making it very unlikely to rebase them at later point, would you recommend using 32mm from the beginning? I would recommend using 32mm from the beginning, regardless of game (dis)advantages. They fit the models better and look appropriate. Where older models like the 1E/2E metal Terminators came on 25mm bases, I would not require anyone to re-base. However, if anybody asked me what to put them on, I would be tempted to suggest 32mm rather than 40mm, as those smaller old models really look overwhelmed on the modern 40mm Terminator bases (even if you add some scenic basing). This is an example of a sensible compromise, where the old bases were too small, but the new ones are too big. In the end, the base sizes that look and fit the models best has always the #1 guide to basing in GW games for as long as I can remember (which is about 25+ years). My advice to you would be to use that rule of thumb over and above anything else, and I don't imagine you will ever have a problem - even in a tournament. Kua 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4787125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just go for the rule of cool. If it looks good do it. The larger bases sizes just look better (says the man who sculpted masters and then cast 100's of 25mm bases). :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331617-base-sizes/#findComment-4788068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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