Jackalwolf Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 So I´m finally at the point in which I´ve done enough in my SW army in which I must decide how to varnish them. I am thinking about doing the usual Gloss Varnish > pigments, oils & decals > Testors Dullcote. But I just wondered what you guys recommend best for the Gloss Varnish stage. I bought a cheap airbrush for Varnish and Priming so all options are on, Airbrush, Brush, Spray Can. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I just use Vallejo varnishes with some of their flow improver, worked for me Ok. Be sure you don't apply too thick or have it pool up on you - ie test it first to see how it works for you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Also, do you guys preffer gloss > weathering > matte or satin > weathering > matte. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I just use Vallejo varnishes with some of their flow improver, worked for me Ok. Be sure you don't apply too thick or have it pool up on you - ie test it first to see how it works for you. What do you clean the airbrush with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Good question, mostly I spray some X-20A thinners through and once the worst has been cleared out I'll run a little Createx airbrush cleaner through (got when I purchased my Paasche a very long time ago) as the last thing. But I use it very rarely and make the most of it each time so it often gets a strip down so I can clean with the x-20a. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Eidolon Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If you check out my plogs you can see Humrol Gloss in action, it's very thin and goes through the airbrush easily, it's also good for just slapping on with a brush. I've found Vallejo stuff blocks my airbrush quite quickly. Although I use a 0.5 exclusively for base coating and varnishing now. I've also found the humbrol slightly tougher and more resistant to the harsh white spirits for oil wash clean up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Also, do you guys preffer gloss > weathering > matte or satin > weathering > matte. This is my exact process, works fine for me. Currently have my army at the post satin stage and I will be weathering with streaking etc next. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DistroyA Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I recommend a gloss coat first before you apply anything else, as gloss has the strongest protection overall. The other varnishes are essentially to take away the shine from the gloss. I always use gloss first, then matt, then use satin on armour and metallics and gloss again on lenses. Anything such as blood and slime I add after the varnishing stage so as to avoid ruining the look of the effect and not have to mess around painting gloss onto each little droplet. That's how I go about it anyway. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4673686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I HIGHLY recommend using a lacquer or enamel flat varnish on top of the gloss varnish. None of the acrylics I've used have ever given a really good result. I've been using Model Masters Flat Clear lacquer and it is so much better at not only knocking down the shine but staying clear. I could never get my Acrylic flat coats to stay clear and not haze. It is easier to get away with for the gloss coating but I still recommend going with an enamel or lacquer for the best results. Model Masters Lacquer gloss and Flat finishes are pretty great stuffs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4681500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 For flat coats, I have been using Winsor Newton UV Matt Varnish. It's water based, so it;s pretty safe to run through the airbrush. I have been trying to get it to frost, and have yet to pull it off. No dilution, just run through the brush at 15-30psi. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4681611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 For flat coats, I have been using Winsor Newton UV Matt Varnish. It's water based, so it;s pretty safe to run through the airbrush. I have been trying to get it to frost, and have yet to pull it off. No dilution, just run through the brush at 15-30psi. Not trying to single you out but that is misinformation that gets people confused about airbrushing. Enamels and Lacquer work just as good if not better in an airbrush than acrylics do. Lacquers and Enamels do not dry as fast as acrylics do and they are much easier to clean up with their solvent thinners. The problem with Lacquers and Enamels are they require ventilation because they produce hazardous fumes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4681687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 @ Bloody LegionnaireDon't solvent cleaners typically degrade the gaskets/O-rings in your airbrush faster than cleaning with cleaners designed for acrylic paints? This is what I have been led to believe, but you definitely sound like you have more experience than me. I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4682691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 @ Bloody Legionnaire Don't solvent cleaners typically degrade the gaskets/O-rings in your airbrush faster than cleaning with cleaners designed for acrylic paints? This is what I have been led to believe, but you definitely sound like you have more experience than me. I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter!I In short... no. You'd have to be doing something like soaking your airbrush in lacquer thinner to cause anything to come into contact with any orings. If you're cleaning your airbrush properly the cleaners/thinners will never come into contact with the orings in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4682718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Interesting that you mention it that way. I had watched a video guide from Kenny Boucher (sp) from TheLongWar, and he advised doing just that...soaking the airbrush (taken apart) every so often as you rotate through a cleaning cycle to maintain and clean it. Then he oils the mechanics of it afterwards. Sounds to me like I need to do more research and watch more cleaning/disassembly videos (I am an airbrush novice, I have only used mine twice, and cleaned twice, both just for base coating thus far). Thanks for the insight! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4682747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uk_crow Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 This thread is really useful as I'm about to airbrush varnish my first batch of minis, but I do have some questions regarding vallejo varnish. I was thinking of thinning 3:1 (Varnish:Thinner) and spraying at around 15 psi? Thoughts? Pretty keen to avoid a varnish airbrush meltdown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4682965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This thread is really useful as I'm about to airbrush varnish my first batch of minis, but I do have some questions regarding vallejo varnish. I was thinking of thinning 3:1 (Varnish:Thinner) and spraying at around 15 psi? Thoughts? Pretty keen to avoid a varnish airbrush meltdown. Apparently most acrylic airbrush "varnish" is formulated in a way that it can be airbrushed straight from the bottle. I've not used Vallejo's but I have used Model Master gloss and flat acryl and always thinned mine. The more you thin it the thinner the coat is going to be and the less protection it'll have so you may have to add a couple subsequent layers to get the finish you desire. I don't think a 3:1 ratio is going to give you an "airbrush meltdown." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331619-airbrushing-varnish/#findComment-4683291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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