bluntblade Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 She's the daughter of a spire lord, and her pronunciation of "lieutenant" certainly suggests Albyon, but is she definitely Terran? I did say it's a minor question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Her pronouncing lieutenant the British way doesn't indicate she's British, it indicates the author wanted her to sound posh. The UK in 40k is a collection of steampunk tribes, not a developed civilization with hive cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Wow, that game of Spot the American didn't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 As far as I recall, there was a mention of her Navigator house coming from Terra in Betrayer, I might be getting mixed up with another lesser Navigator though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 What is a british way to pronounce lieutanent? Leftanent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 What is a british way to pronounce lieutanent? Leftanent? I'm British and I don't even know. XD I assume that's it, from funny subtitles I've seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 What is a british way to pronounce lieutanent? Leftanent? I'm British and I don't even know. XD I assume that's it, from funny subtitles I've seen before. Supposedly the word is French and because they have French accents, the British thought the word was pronounced "leftenant" rather than "lieutenant", although the spelling was the same. Americans are actually the weird English-speaking country for pronouncing it "lieutenant" while supposedly "most English-speaking countries still say 'leftenant'". I say supposedly because I know more than a few Canadians, and British, even an Irish, and my Welsh grandparents(with my grandfather even being in the Royal Air Force) and the few of them I have heard say "lieutenant" definitely say "lieutenant". In fact, the only time I see "leftenant" is either in fiction that takes place in the colonial era of sailing in stories about the British Navy, or in scifi that is emulating that era. So my guess would be that it is something that used to be done, and that Lotarra being a prim and proper naval officer is an emulation of that colonial era "Gentlelady Sailor Captain". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 What is a british way to pronounce lieutanent? Leftanent? Yes. Just watch Master and Commander. I've heard a lieutenant-something in the British Navy use the "left". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 The UK in 40k is a collection of steampunk tribes, not a developed civilization with hive cities. Lotarra is a 30K character not a 40K character. In 30K, I think "Albia" or "Old Albia" with its towering cities, clans, and "armoured ironsides" soldiers is intended to be in the UK's geographic location. Albia was pretty sophisticated and powerful - able to take on the Emperor's Thunder Warriors - he offered Albia a peace treaty rather than forced them to surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Also, Albyon in the Unification Wars, not 30K Albyon. Some sources do give its location as what used to be Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Maybe Albyon the "continent" is much of Northern Europe, with Albia being a region within Albyon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 I thought Albia was a little different. For what it's worth, Garro is from Albyon, and has a distinctly aristocratic appearance and bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I thought Albia was a little different. For what it's worth, Garro is from Albyon, and has a distinctly aristocratic appearance and bearing. Garro was from Albia when referenced in Flight iirc Most references seem to direct Albia to being the UK, with the styles of weapons the legions use, the manner of the legions and even down to the legionary names. For example Nathaniel and Shadrak Smyth who then went on to become Meduson. Even the high amount of Castles seems to point the UK's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I'd hazard a guess that she is voidborn but from a respectable family. I know that rejuvenating treatments are available but I don't know how a terran born would end up on the Conqueror 200 years in to the great crusade. Cheers Vogon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 The UK in 40k is a collection of steampunk tribes, not a developed civilization with hive cities. Lotarra is a 30K character not a 40K character. In 30K, I think "Albia" or "Old Albia" with its towering cities, clans, and "armoured ironsides" soldiers is intended to be in the UK's geographic location. Albia was pretty sophisticated and powerful - able to take on the Emperor's Thunder Warriors - he offered Albia a peace treaty rather than forced them to surrender. I'm aware, I mean 40k as the general umbrella. Regardless, Albia is more techno-barbarian than cyberpunk hive dweller, hence being a prime recruitment source for two or three Legions. Received Pronunciation is typically used to represent hive dwellers and upper class in the lore, not the techno-barbarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Brushes Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Wasn't Sarrin from Jupiter, an officer from the Jovian fleets? Or am I mixing her up with another 30k shipmaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 What is a british way to pronounce lieutanent? Leftanent?Yes. Just watch Master and Commander. I've heard a lieutenant-something in the British Navy use the "left". Ive heard the British pronunciation and french pronunciation of the world have their roots in which side of the Napoleonic Wars a country was aligned with. Hence the American use of 'lieu' and the British use of 'left'. During the Civil War both sides of the conflict modeled themselves on Napoleon's armies, to the point General Longstreet had actually petitioned the US Gov't prior to the outbreak of the war to consider adopting an organization more in line with Frederick the Great's Prussian model because it fit the character of the dispersed US population at the time and many settlers in the Midwest were either trained in the Prussian system or their fathers were. Entire regiments from Wisconsin/Minnesota spoke English as a second language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Wasn't Sarrin from Jupiter, an officer from the Jovian fleets? Or am I mixing her up with another 30k shipmaster? That would be news to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 In relation to the topic of 'Albyon' vs 'Albia' Albion is the old greek name for the island of Great Britain. Alba is the old Gàidhlig (Scots-Gaelic) name for Scotland. Seems likely a connection to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm sure Garro's scenes mentioned Albyon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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