ThatMetalhead Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I've been working on this list for quite a long time now, and this is how i see it fit to the meta of my zone: HQ -Legion Champion (130pts) Artificer Armour, Combat Shield, Melta Bombs, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker) goes in the tac blob in spartan -Legion Praevian (390pts) Artificer Armour, Boarding Shield, Melta Bombs, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker *Vorax Class Battle-automata Maniple 3× Vorax Class Battle-automata with shriekers and frag grenades these are my terminator killers, putting some pressure on the enemy line right at the beginning of the game, with Scout and the +1" movemente T1 -Legion Praetor (170pts) Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Sonic Shrieker goes in the tac blob in spartan Elites (685pts) -Apothecarion Detachment (130pts) *Legion Apothecary Artificer Armour, Power Sword *Legion Apothecary Artificer Armour, Power Sword one in the tac blob in spartan, the other outflanking with the shooty blob, trying to take objectives coming late in the game if needed -Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon (555pts) *Cortus Dreadnought Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Graviton Gun, Twin-Linked Lascannon *Cortus Dreadnought Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Graviton Gun, Twin-Linked Lascannon *Cortus Dreadnought Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Graviton Gun, Twin-Linked Lascannon they outflank T2 and try to shoot in enemy's tanks weak sides, and then support hard CCs Troops (550pts) -Legion Tactical Squad (250pts) 19x Legion Tactical Space Marines with Chainswords/Combat Blades, Legion Tactical Sergeant with Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear in the spartan, my big unit for CC -Legion Tactical Squad (300pts) 19x Legion Tactical Space Marines Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Legion Vexilla, Legion Tactical Sergeant with Artificer Armour, Bolter, Phoenix Spear outflanking, trying to take some objectives in late game phase Fast Attack (470pts) -Legion Land Speeder Squadron (110pts) *Legion Land Speeder Graviton Gun *Legion Land Speeder Graviton Gun -Legion Land Speeder Squadron (110pts) *Legion Land Speeder Graviton Gun *Legion Land Speeder Graviton Gun these 4 land speeders support the flanks of the army shooting to hard vehicles -Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter (250pts) Ground-tracking Auguries, 3x Kraken Penetrator Heavy missile my spartan killer, coming from the flank T2 Heavy Support (605pts) -Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (230pts) Accelerator Autocannon, Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Lascannon Sponsons shooty, fast and good looking... The perfect EC tank -Legion Spartan Assault Tank (375pts) Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Flare Shield, Quad Lascannon Sponsons, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter Legion Legiones Astartes III: Emperor's Children, Traitor Rite of War The Maru Skara What do you think about it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Looks like a decent list. My only suggestion would be to put a volkite charger on the praevian, if he shoots and hits an enemy unit, his unit gains preferred enemy vs that unit, the volkite charger gives you 2 shots to get preferred enemy before the unit charges in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4680723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Well, yes, but he's already striking before the automata... He has i6 in a turn he charges, and i7 if he declares a challange. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4680812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I meant for the rotor cannons, before you charge, having preferred enemy for 24 rotor cannon shots is handy :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4680948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
em_en_oh_pee Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Nothing useful to add, just so amused at the name and had to say so. Mascara! Too good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4681039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 @Varyn, well, yeah, but i'm going for enemy's terminators, so the rotor cannonos are not that useful... @em_en_oh_pee: yeah, the first time i read "Maru skara" I saw "Mascara", and now that is its name for me :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4681279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyn Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think that for 10 points, giving preferred enemy to 24 rotor cannon shots is totally worth it. If you math hammer it, gaining preferred enemy will mean you'll average just over 7 wounds, without the preferred enemy, its just over 5 wounds, vs T4 targets. The list is good, I'm just offering my opinion to improve it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4681387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Yeah, sure, thank you very much! I'll think about it. Discussing with my group, we've decided that the apothecary cannot outflank with the tacticals... So i'm thinking about making the 2 LS units into only 1 of 4, and making them outflank if necessary and then sobstituting the tacticals with bolter and ccw with assault marines, to try to get near the enemy T1 with 13" move and 2D6+1" charge. What do you fink about it? (I5 Assault marines with power swords are awesome) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4681424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 What was the reasoning behind not being able to Outflank the Apothecary if you don't mind me asking? It makes sense to me, Elites gain Outflank and Outflank is a conferred rule...but if that isnt going to fly with your gaming group then maybe Assault Marines will be of more use. Or go down to base Tactical squads in Rhinos for some survival and to capture objectives while the rest of the army engages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4682106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 They see it as a 40k-ish rule's bug exploit (don't ask me why) so... No Outflanking tacticals unless using the Vigilator.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4682154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The ironic thing is attaching a Vigilator is the exact same as attaching an Apothecary. Moving on, I dont know about your Spartan full of Tacticals. The tank seems super easy to kill now days with Lightnings, Vulturax etc. I think a few Assault Maine squads with shields will go well with the list, boosted initiative on the charge and some power swords could be fun. Losing the Spartan could allow for another Sicaran of either flavour as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4682189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 I know... And that's a shame. (And than... 20 outflanking tactical marines... Wow, so OP... :/ ) About the tacticals on spartan vs assault squad... Here the meta is full weapons against infantry, while the anti tank is not that powerful (and assault is a great deal here, but being and EC i feel confident in that part), and having T2 outflanking dreds makes the spartan a not high-priority target. So i prefer having those marines and my general well protected in the spartan and to use a good deployment, and the T1 +1" movement bonus to get a cover save for the spartan, and then T2 my real tank killers come on the board and i'll aim to slow down my enemy and then choose my target for CC for my Vorax and tacticals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331843-emperors-children-the-mascara-row/#findComment-4682510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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