recon0321 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello everyone I have a idea for a DIY chapter and I have a name picked out but it's taken by another chapter. the chapter in name is the Ash Scorpions. The reason I ask this is because I want to base their home planet off Arrakis from Dune and Nocturne obviously from the Salamanders..so I want the chapters name to reflect with their Home planet...any ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ash Spectres? Dusk Spectres? Ash Golems, Ember Drakes, Sand Stalkers. Dark Wardens. ... I feel like I need more information. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4683398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhiv Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello everyone I have a idea for a DIY chapter and I have a name picked out but it's taken by another chapter. the chapter in name is the Ash Scorpions. The reason I ask this is because I want to base their home planet off Arrakis from Dune and Nocturne obviously from the Salamanders..so I want the chapters name to reflect with their Home planet...any ideas? Actually, for the majority of the chapters the name doesn't reflect the homeworld (exceptions: Patriarchs of Ulixis and Praetors of Orpheus) as the canon implies the name is often picked before the homeworld. That being said, nothing says you cannot do that. White / Black / Grey / Imperial Scorpions. Scorpion Lords Patriarchs of [your planet name] Guardians of [your planet name] Praetors of [your planet name] And what Draakur suggested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4683410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello everyone I have a idea for a DIY chapter and I have a name picked out but it's taken by another chapter. the chapter in name is the Ash Scorpions. The reason I ask this is because I want to base their home planet off Arrakis from Dune and Nocturne obviously from the Salamanders..so I want the chapters name to reflect with their Home planet...any ideas? Actually, for the majority of the chapters the name doesn't reflect the homeworld (exceptions: Patriarchs of Ulixis and Praetors of Orpheus) as the canon implies the name is often picked before the homeworld. That being said, nothing says you cannot do that. This is true, of course. I'm so used to people not caring or not realising that I tend to just respond without bringing it up. But yes, despite the amount of examples that suggest otherwise or stand as exceptions, it's typically the case that the Chapter name is decided well before the Chapter has a Homeworld, or develops a specific disposition, or any real culture or idiosyncratic practices at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4683554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ok so I haven't figured out much to go off...I was thinking that the Chapter discovers the planet and it was a former Mining world for the AdMech and the planet was stripped bare of any useful resources. the chapter then decided to make the Planet theirs....and utilizes the underground mining tunnels as their chapter fortress.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4683748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilityzero Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's not a terrible theme. Will the planet's population be tough, hardy zealots like the Fremen? If you're not going to directly copy Arrakis, which I don't recommend you do, maybe they could be the Ash Wyrms, which implies a more lizard-y, dragon-ish feel than an actual worm, but it would be a nice nod to Dune without being too obvious hopefully? And it would be a name that doesn't directly tie to a homeworld they wouldn't have know about when there were created? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4683799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badass_Spaz Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Desert color-scheme, inspiration from Dune, and a dash of Middle-Eastern culture and mysticism to top it off all off. If done juuuuuust right, that would be a home brew of the year, without question... I know, the temptation must be killing you now. Hehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4683822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I want to use a Scorpion as the chapter badge...obviously for the FW goodies. I am basing the armor off the off of the knight house Malinax. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4684466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 How about Pyre Scorpions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4684623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Spice Scorpions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4684816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Do you specifically want Ash or a reference to Scorpions/Wyrms of any sort in the name? If not, could they be the Dune Reapers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4684824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilityzero Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just Scorpions then. Very few chapters go for one word names. You don't need an adjective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4685011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I thought ash was fitting...but I could always go one name but I just thought ash scorpions was awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4685579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Ash wardens? What do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4685587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Hmm. It's getting there. Ashen Wardens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4685984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilityzero Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Ash Wardens is great. But how will you make using the scorpion a symbol make sense? Are you stuck on Ash more than Scorpions? I was going to suggest that Their name be something space related and their name could be derived from Scorpius fluff wise so as to avoid being too tied to the desert? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4686983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Hero Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 One of the synonyms I found for scorpion is harvestman. As such, what about the Ash Harvesters. The name can denote the colonization of their home world, combat doctrine, general demeanor to others, etc. There are many ways to harvest depending on what the harvest is. This would also allow you to use the scorpion icon as a scorpion is a "harvester". Just a suggestion, but I thought it might help. Been doing a little research on scorpions themselves who do indeed build a tunnel network, kind of like ants do, no matter what area or species they are. Adding the thesaurus searches and latin translations of many of the words you wish to use, this is the best I could come up with that goes with your theme. Hope it helps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4687099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 It's not a terrible theme. Will the planet's population be tough, hardy zealots like the Fremen? If you're not going to directly copy Arrakis, which I don't recommend you do, maybe they could be the Ash Wyrms, which implies a more lizard-y, dragon-ish feel than an actual worm, but it would be a nice nod to Dune without being too obvious hopefully? And it would be a name that doesn't directly tie to a homeworld they wouldn't have know about when there were created? I really like Ash Wyrms. It fits the concept, sounds good, flows nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4687708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Fedayeen Imperator, "Those willing to sacrifice themselves for the Emperor." (Fedayeen is an Arabic word, the basis of the "Fedaykin" in 'Dune'.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4687996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzyeye01 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 While the Ash Wardens sounds alright, it doesn't quite roll off the tongue for me. I'd either change it to either the Wardens of Ash or the Ashen Wardens. That or if you're really wanting to use scorpions then simply replace Wardens with Scorpions. It's just how you feel which applies more to your chapter. Warden implies that your chapter see's themselves are protectors and more of a defensive apporach to things while Scorpion leans more towards a perhaps more animalistic/tribal approach and could mean they fight in a similar fashion to how a scoprion would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4688093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I know this is major blasphemy but I know very little of Dune and that universe... so why in Terra's name would the be protecting ash? Or harvesting ash? What meaning is hidden behind their name? Do they literally collect/protect ashes? Is it a metaphor for something? And ashes from what? Plants, animals, humans, xenos, enemies, allies, who cares? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4688387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Hero Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I tolk it as the pheonix metaphor, from the ashes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4688614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hence why I suggested Ashen Wardens further up. Ash Wardens both doesn't roll off the tongue, as Dizzyeye said, but it's also kind of a silly name as soon as you break it down in my opinion, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4689058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Agreed; Ashen Wardens sounds good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4689089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzyeye01 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Just another point about Ashen over Ash. The definition of Ashen is either describing a persons' face as being pale along with being an adjective describing an object being like ash, meaning that the chapter can be described as rising from the ground after the Horus Heresy or a similar conflict in which only ashes remained. So yeah, its why Ashen Wardens seems like a better name to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331941-diy-ideas/#findComment-4689331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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