Lord Kaldor Draigo vs Khârn The Betrayer (Lore-wise)

[Waking Dreamer]

That's essentially Samurai Jack...

Wow, that's just how I see Draigo roaming alone in the warp - always looking for a way back to reality, but as soon as he thinks he's back home, he ends up wandering the warp again - surrounded by daemons but nobody can best him.

[Beams]

So...

 

Saint Celestine fought Abbadon and would have won, except that her connection to the Emperor was severed.

 

Abbadon defeated quite a few Horus clones.

 

Kharne the betrayer than single-handedly beat her in a fight, and I believe beheaded her.

 

So, Kharne can probably beat Draigo, especoally since Kharne isn't a demon.

[Godeskian]

Can't speak to the lore or the math hammer, but last Monday I had my Grey Knights shoot everything between my GMNDK and Kharne so I could charge him.

 

Butchered him in a single round of combat, for what it's worth.

[Helycon]

So...

 

Saint Celestine fought Abbadon and would have won, except that her connection to the Emperor was severed.

 

Abbadon defeated quite a few Horus clones.

 

Kharne the betrayer than single-handedly beat her in a fight, and I believe beheaded her.

 

So, Kharne can probably beat Draigo, especoally since Kharne isn't a demon.

Rock, paper scissors. Everyone has their weakness ;) .

 

Does it require someone to be a Demon for Draigo? Does he fight like some right handed person trying to write with his left when he's fighting anything else? 

 

It's difficult to gauge who can outfight the other. Draigo Fought greater daemons and a Primarch. If that's anything to go by, he should be able to beat Khârne, but maybe Khârne is a lot more nimble due to his size and therefor quicker than Draigo, able to nick around the Stormshield. 

[bozo69pd]

Draigo powers up against daemons right? Lol interesting semi necro with this thread since it was from 7th edition and now we are in 8th.

[Beams]

Not disareeing, but Celestine is definitely no slouch, and should have finished off Abbadon if Cawl didn't screw things up.

 

Khârn had no problem killing Celestine, and Draigo, as a grey knight, better at fighting demons than mortals due to specific training.

 

I'd suggest that, at the very least, Khârn would give him tons of trouble.

[Dremiah]

In that novel, I don't think that was Celestine. That was some other, pompous wind bag of a saint, and that saint gave him a pretty good run if I remember. Edited September 7, 2017 by Dremiah

[Beams]

Celestine vs Abbadon is Fall Of Cadia's and Celestine vs Kharne is Shroud of Night, I believe.

[skarn]

Not sure what Celestine has to do with Kaldor?

[Brother_Gneecapper]

In current rules, I think that it would matter more on who gets the charge off and attacks first in terms of who would win. Draigo is going to chunk wounds off for any unsaved damage from his sword but Khârn can attack 3 times in one turn if you use the stratagem. I think both will kill the other in a single round of combat, Draigo may have a leg up if he's able to give himself a the 2++ save using his psychic stuff.

[Beams]

Not sure what Celestine has to do with Kaldor?

Celestine provides context for the powerlevel of Khârn the betrayer.

 

Kaldor has beaten a lot of tough opponents, but so has Khârn. If we are judging who can beat Khârn, it helps to know who has he beaten, and how powerful they were.

 

Celestine is one of the most powerful Imperial Characters, with abilities granted to her from the Emperor himself. Khârn beat her without much of an issue. Which establishes Kharns credentials, since Celestine nearly killed abbadon (driving her sword through his spine and one of his hearts) when depowered, it stands to reason that Khârn is pretty powerful.

 

It's hinted a few times that Khârn is resistant to magic, which could have aided him vs. Celestine but will definitely help vs Draigo.

 

So, I'm on the side of Draigo losing to Khârn, although not by much, judging by Kharns previous kills, which include two living saints.

[bozo69pd]

Personally I think Khârn would win, but I think GW favors imperials so heavily with storyline that Draigo simply can never lose.

 

Even if Draigo did win though it would not matter much because Khârn would just get resurrected/Princedom.

[Gentlemanloser]

If Draigo can romp through the personal homes of each of the chaos gods, kill the gods favoured servants, and burn thier creations to ashes.

 

Lore wise, there's no way Kharne wins.

 

And with our 8th lore of Draigo coming back due to the massive warp rift. We know he's not some mind slave of the chaos goods thinking he's doing those things.

 

He actually did them.

 

Bad boy!

Edited September 8, 2017 by Gentlemanloser

[skarn]

GL is right. Khârn is no match for Samurai Jack. ;)