Noctus Cornix Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Evening, ladies and gents. So, with the coming of 8th edition and the release of Gathering Storm 3, I decided to have my take at messing around with the new Roboute Guilliman model. Personally, in terms of its sculpt, Guilliman is a beautiful model but his posing was horrific and the aesthetic style, while close, just wasn't 40k enough for me. Needs more skulls and purity seals. I want to see more of the Grimdark bleakness that I love so much about this setting... So, this will essentially be a little mini-log to cover that project and take advice as well as input on how to really bring the Grimdark macabre design of Warhammer 40,000 to Roboute Guilliman. Let's start with a couple notes of mine. Influence of the Ecclesiarchy: Guilliman is not one who drank the proverbial kool-aid. He has no belief in the Emperor as a God and scorns the very notion by its nature. However, the Imperial Creed has become the very foundation of the Imperium as a whole and remains a focal pillar in keeping humanity alive in this murderous galaxy. Rather than rebelling, he accepts this fate, something we see a bit of in Gathering Storm 3, but I want to go further with that. Guilliman is, far as we know for now, the last living Primarch loyal to his father. And so, as the Blade of Unity he takes up the burden of embodying the Imperium and everything that holds it up, even if he doesn't agree with it. The fact that he's willingly lying to everyone though he knows the truth, and in essence lying to himself is a really fascinating aspect to me and I hope GW explores that more. So, to become the embodiment of the Imperium, I want him to look like he belongs in a Gothic Cathedral. I want skulls and purity seals and other imagery that annunciates that Grimdark vibe. Dead Man Walking: Guilliman is basically already dead. Far as we know his suit, the Armour of Faith, is the only thing keeping him alive. His armour and the enormous array on his backpack is as much a matter of life support as it is protection. I want to emphasize that aspect. I want to sort of enhance the crazy medical equipment strapped to his back and wired up to him. I want it to feel as though just looking at him would prove Guilliman is likely in constant pain where even the most simple movement is agony. So, as I said, I am happy to hear what you folks have to think and I'm always eager to get your input... But it's late and I'm exhausted so I'll leave you with some pics of what I have so far. http://i.imgur.com/RiuFk2U.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TSD6WDR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kF0tWan.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Pila78G.jpg Hope you enjoy.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Wonderful repose! Much better than the standard one, looking forward to seeing how you upgrade the backpack! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4692854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miteyheroes Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Looking forward to seeing where this goes, I like the themes you're discussing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4692987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagentus Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The repose of the model is looking good, makes him look like he's on the attack. I like the whole concept of him being in constant pain and I also want see how gw play his discontent with the imperium as it currently stands Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4692997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The reposing is looking good as is your idea behind it, bravo. Keep at the good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Thanks, guys. Appreciate the love. Any thoughts on what you folks think would really improve the model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martox Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Excellent so far, still trying to figure out my own Guilliman repose for a project and this certainly gives a few ideas.As for thoughts to improve the model - the fingers on the Hand of Dominion are a big one in my opinion. I look at them and then compare them to a powerfist and they seem.. too thin. Maybe a repose so they aren't as splayed, either? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 He needs a gorget, like those on Mark VIII power armor, to protect his throat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Red shoulder pads and leg greaves you got optimus prime right there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 I wonder if trying to transfer over a gorget from the Black Templar MK VIII torso would be viable.. Will have to look into that. I'll also see what I can do about the fingers on the gauntlet. As for Prime, I was never a big Transformers kid growin up... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Why are you calling the Primarch "Ferrus Manus?" Iron Hands? Are you referring to the Techpriest Enginseers' augmetics? Don't tell me the Farseers frakked up another prophecy! The Primarch warned them about misinterpreting visions of a possible future! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Nice work, Noctus. When it comes to this sorta thing... I'm kinda the opposite of Edna Mode. I like how the loincloth looks, a lot. Nice work on the repose too, so far. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 · Hidden by Bryan Blaire, March 25, 2017 - Off Topic Hidden by Bryan Blaire, March 25, 2017 - Off Topic I chose the name "Maximarines" because the majority of X Legion's members will be biological life forms, i.e., Space Marines. The name "Autobot" should be reserved for the "transforming Dreadnoughts" who serve as the Legion's senior officers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693889
Noctus Cornix Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 · Hidden by Bryan Blaire, March 25, 2017 - Should have been a Report Hidden by Bryan Blaire, March 25, 2017 - Should have been a Report Not to be rude, but this isn't the purpose of my thread... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693897
Claws and Effect Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 He needs a gorget, like those on Mark VIII power armor, to protect his throat.Given how he was taken down by Fulgrim, you'd think he would insist on this. A little bit of green stuff in a sharp upward triangle in front of his face would do nicely. Not necessarily to stop a blade, but to direct it upward into his helmet (which I assume is better armored than his throat). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4693904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 He needs a gorget, like those on Mark VIII power armor, to protect his throat.Given how he was taken down by Fulgrim, you'd think he would insist on this. A little bit of green stuff in a sharp upward triangle in front of his face would do nicely. Not necessarily to stop a blade, but to direct it upward into his helmet (which I assume is better armored than his throat). That's a good point... You think a Custodes gorget would work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4694451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Possibly. I'm not familiar enough with them to say for sure though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4694797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Paint him I'm solid gold with a blue helmet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4694807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 Paint him I'm solid gold with a blue helmet. That makes me think of Celestial Lions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332304-roboute-guilliman-the-grim-avatar-of-the-imperium/#findComment-4694836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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