ServoBadger Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I'm getting closer to starting a 30k Emperor's Children army but before I do, I'd like to get an idea of whether it's generally considered acceptable to use the 40k plastic vehicles and so on in a 30k army? Equally importantly, even if it's permitted, is it frowned upon? There are two reasons for this slightly odd question: 1. I'm honestly not a very good hobbyist and I prefer plastic kits that just fit together. 2. While none of my friends would care about things not being 100% accurate, I'd like to get involved with a local gaming group and I don't want this to be an impediment to getting a game. (Yes. Late 30s and still worried about making a bad first impression with my army. I'm hopeless.) Thanks for any advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 In short, it's fine. A drop pod is a drop pod. For the 40k Rhino (Mars pattern), lore wise they were less common as a pattern, but were still around in the heresy. IIRC there's an Iron Warriors colour plate of a Mars pattern Rhino in Forgeworld Book 3. In an ideal world, you should replace the storm bolter with a combi bolter, but that's a minor nitpick http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_First_Expedition/ar/t35.htm Here's a quick link. You'll need to scroll all the way to the bottom. Hope this helps. Dallo Edit: Added link. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4699742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The difference between "40k" and "30k" rhino chassis is due to them being patterns coming from different forge worlds, so both should actually be around in 30k, and therefore be fluff-accurate. If someone has any inconvenience it would be purely a matter of opinion (while I prefer the aesthetics of the deimos pattern, I would consider it perfectly fine for anyone to use the plastic one).Regarding drop pods, if I recall correctly FW does not have a model for standard ones, just dreadclaws, kharybdis and dreadnought ones, so the GW is actually the correct one, feel free to use it.Anyone should be free to collect and build their army as they see fit, and wanting to use the plastic options be it because they are easier to work with, cheaper prices or aesthetics reasons is perfectly valid. It is your hobby after all.A slightly different topic would be using units not available in the 31th millenium according to the lore, although using them as creative proxies can be fine and fun if altered to fit (I have an idea running around my head of using centurions as the base for cortus contemptors, and the DA nephilim has been suggested in this forum as a possible lightning proxy). Edit: I've rewritten a couple sentences to correct grammar and wordy stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4699750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServoBadger Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Thanks for the advice! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4699754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Like in all things, a good hobbyist is nothing but one that had lots of practise. Grab a coarse sponge, dip it in some thick paint, let it dry, and dab that thing all over. 40k Rhino's and Predators actually look more in line with the settings theme. Just paint it gritty and no one will have cause to even doubt. Round cupolas are two angles too close to xenos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4699771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 No one should have a problem with it. I've got a predator executioner built from the plastic kit with the gun from the Russ, I stuck a marine in MK4 in the top and no one has raised an eyebrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_cse Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The difference between "40k" and "30k" rhino chassis is due to them being patterns coming from different forge worlds, so both should actually be around in 30k, and therefore be fluff-accurate. If someone has any inconvenience it would be purely a matter of opinion (while I prefer the aesthetics of the deimos pattern, I would consider it perfectly fine for anyone to use the plastic one). Regarding drop pods, if I recall correctly FW does not have a model for standard ones, just dreadclaws, kharybdis and dreadnought ones, so the GW is actually the correct one, feel free to use it. Anyone should be free to collect and build their army as they see fit, and wanting to use the plastic options be it because they are easier to work with, cheaper prices or aesthetics reasons is perfectly valid. It is your hobby after all. A slightly different topic would be using units not available in the 31th millenium according to the lore, although using them as creative proxies can be fine and fun if altered to fit (I have an idea running around my head of using centurions as the base for cortus contemptors, and the DA nephilim has been suggested in this forum as a possible lightning proxy). Edit: I've rewritten a couple sentences to correct grammar and wordy stuff. They even have options to take some of the other FW stuff that wouldn't have been available in the HH era (page 10 of the LA-AoD red book), they just say to use the model to represent some other vehicle that would have been around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 You can build an entire legit 30k army out of GW plastics before BOP and B@C came out. The defenders of the seige of terra had mark 7 power armour, Indomitus terminators, and mars pattern rhino hulls... there has never been a mandate to use FW resin to play HH, and anybody said their was is probably just being a jerk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 All my vehicles are gw plastic except the Spartan including a baneblade for exactly the same reason as thin resin plates warp like a bitch coming out of the mould and big chunks are worse. Dont dismiss the baneblade kit for superheavy options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'd be perfectly happy with someone using the plastic kits. Plastix Drop Pods are essential (if running a Dreadclaw or DDP then please show some conversion to reflect it but that's just for simplicity) I myself am struggling with the Rhino chassis stuff, I can't work out if I like the look (particularly the Predators) of the Deimos pattern. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 The Demos pattern hull front is lacking to me, it just looks like someone took a v2 plastic rhino and tried to make it look like the v1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_cse Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 The Demos pattern hull front is lacking to me, it just looks like someone took a v2 plastic rhino and tried to make it look like the v1. I like the front, but I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happened ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332557-40k-plastic-rhinosdrop-pods-etc-acceptable/#findComment-4700789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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