Ion Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Hi all, I'm not as up to date as I used to be and dropped out of the hobby for a while, so I was just wondering how my current list looks overall and where I can improve. A lot of the stuff is things I already own, so I'd like to be able to make use of them in some way. HQ Praetor - Cataphractii Primus, Digital Lasers, Master Crafted, Paragon Blade - 200pts -- Justaerin (9) - 2x Chainfist, 7x Powerfist, 9x Combiplasma - 533pts Centurion - Primus Medicae, Cataphractii Armour - 130pts Troops Tactical Squad (10) - Additional CC Weapons, Legion Vexila, Sergeant w/ Artificer Armour and Power Fist - 180pts -- Rhino - Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade - 50pts Tactical Squad (10) - Additional CC Weapons, Legion Vexila, Sergeant w/ Artificer Armour and Power Fist - 180pts -- Rhino - Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade - 50pts Fast Attack Reaver Squad (15) - Artificer Armoured Chieftain, Jump Packs, 10x Chainaxe, 4x Power weapon, Power Fist - 410pts Heavy Support Deredeo Dreadnought - Aiolos Missile Launcher, Anvilus Autocannon Battery, Heavy Bolters - 220pts Spartan Assault Tank - Armoured Ceramite, Auxilary Drive, Dozer Blade, Quad Lascannon - 340pts Sicaran Venator - Dozer blade, Pintle mounted heavy bolter (for weapon destroyed) - 205pts Total - 2498pts Run with the Long March. I own most of the models listed here already, barring the Spartan, Sicaran, and one Rhino. I also have a heavy support squad of 5 with volkite culverins, and 5 tactical support with plasma. Advice and feedback would be appreciated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) If you're running a Spartan, get a flare shield. It's absolutely pivotal that your Justaerin unit makes it into combat as early as possible. As a Venator already comes with one pintle-mounted heavy bolter, I'd reinvest those points into the Spartan's flare shield. You have enough nasty targets to give the Venator a bit of protection. It's a rather one dimensional list with so many points being invested in your deathstar (that being said, a deathstar with topknots is a deathstar with style), but the army is fast and has a fair few scoring options/the ability to take out Primarchs and shut down enemy super heavies, so you tick all of the boxes. Edited March 31, 2017 by Marshal Loss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4699934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Dropping the heavy bolter won't quite make up for a flare shield (hadn't noticed the Venator came stock with one, otherwise I wouldn't have put it there to start with), and even if I drop the chainaxes from the reavers I'm 18pts over. What would you recommend I cut to push down? Alternatively, suggestions for getting it up to 2750? Maybe even building it up to an even 3000 might be better. As for being one dimensional... well, it's so hard to resist a deathstar with topknots xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4700557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richmarine Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 how are you doing your combi plas? see a lot of lists using these but never any modelled? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4702261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 I looked for ages for enough of the ones from the Cataphractii special weapons set, but couldn't find them, so I'm using Combi-plasma from the B@C tactical squads. It's pretty simple to cut away the cataphractii hand from a combi bolter and then glue on the bolter. Here's a pic http://i.imgur.com/Xof9DPK.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4703080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Bumping for advice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) If you drop the Aux drive on your two Rhinos you will have the points for the Spartans Flare shield, I can't reallt suggest that much...Reavers are overpriced and probably better off being run as an Assault squad and in my experience Deathstars are easily avoided or fed with fodder to hold them up. What exactly does The Long March do for your army? Nothing will be in range to shoot Turn One and you dont have any Heavy weapons to make use of Relentless. You might gain minimal use of Fleet for the Reavers or Crusader later in the game but most of your units are in transports so won't benefit until the turn after they deploy. My advice, drop one Tactical squad, run the Reavers as Assault marines and take a Plasma Support squad in a Rhino. Keep the Justaerinstar but maybe drop a man or two if you need points elsewhere. Sicaran and Deredeo are great as they are (obviously drop the extra Heavy bolter) and the Spartan needa that Flare shield. Edited April 8, 2017 by Rangaman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Is there any reason not to take Long March? Would another rite be better off? If I followed your suggestion the list might look something like this: HQ Praetor - Cataphractii Primus, Digital Lasers, Master Crafted, Paragon Blade - 200pts -- Justaerin (9) - 2x Chainfist, 7x Powerfist, 9x Combiplasma - 533pts Centurion - Primus Medicae, Cataphractii Armour - 130pts Troops Tactical Squad (10) - Additional CC Weapons, Legion Vexila, Sergeant w/ Artificer Armour and Power Fist - 180pts -- Rhino - Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade - 50pts Assault Squad (20) - 4x Power Weapon, AA and Lightning Claws on Sargeant - 375pts Tactical Support Squad (5) - Plasma Guns, AA - 185pts -- Rhino - Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade - 50pts Heavy Support Deredeo Dreadnought - Aiolos Missile Launcher, Anvilus Autocannon Battery, Heavy Bolters - 220pts Spartan Assault Tank - Armoured Ceramite, Auxilary Drive, Dozer Blade, Flare Shield, Quad Lascannon - 385pts Sicaran Venator - Stock - 190pts Total - 2498pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) I guess The Long March has no drawbacks that will effect you...list looks good, although the Rhinos may benefit from taking a Multimelta over the Auxiliary Drive. Only way to refine the list is to take to the field! Edited April 8, 2017 by Rangaman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Are multimelta's actually useful? They weren't the last time I was up to date with rule, because everything worth melting was armoured. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 It is all chance at the end of the day, but it does add threat to another unit which would normally be ignored.... might save your other tanks from being shot at for a turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Are multimelta's actually useful? They weren't the last time I was up to date with rule, because everything worth melting was armoured. Most times it works to provide an extra threat it's pretty cheap and a lot of targets outside of death star vehicles don't have ceramite. So tossing some multi melta at a sicara or vindicator is well worth trying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4706956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyn Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I would consider dropping 2 justaerin for 3 more plasma support marines. The justaerin will be in the spartan so they should be well protected til they get into assault, so you can afford to drop a couple. Plus having 16 plasma shots rapid firing is much better than 10! I also second the vote for multimeltas on the rhinos. Having your rhinos being immobilised will be the least of your worries, they usually just blow up or get wrecked if anything more than a stiff breeze heads their way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4709267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Arias Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Hi, I am considering starting a SoH force using the Long March, I really like the look of this list and was wondering how you have got in with it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332563-2500pts-sons-of-horus-list/#findComment-4903543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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