Xana Incident fluff question

[rendingon1+]

Ok, I haven't seen topic about what happened on Xana so my question is:

 

Can someone tell me what were those... things Endryd Haar brought as his part of bargain with XanaMech?

What was to happen next remains a matter of contention by those who have looked back on this incident, and must be reassembled only by fragments of ancillary data, scattered pict- and vox-capture data from seized enemy archives and hearsay well after the fact, the truth perhaps dying with so many other truths in the losses incurred during the Siege ofTerra where so much else was lost. But by all available evidence, the dead walked on Xana II.

Almost as one the cargo containers were broken and blasted open from within, ceramite-clad fists ·smashing through to grasp the air as if called forth by some unheard summons. Darkly armoured figures came forth in grim and silent advance, bearing the livery of the fallen Loyalists, of the Raven Guard and Salamanders Legions, even of the Imperial Fists and White Scars, but most bore the scorched and rent livery of the Iron Hands, of Clan-companies slaughtered wholesale on the black sands oflsstvan V, and more sinisterly also of Clan-companies that had fallen long before, during the darkest days of the Great Crusade.

 

 

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

[Olis]

To put it in not-too-accurate terms - zombie marines. Originally I had assumed it had something to do with the Keys of Hel but then I realised that the only Iron Hands involved were some of the zombie marines. So... yeah. I'm not being very helpful, I suppose. ^_^

[Kol Saresk]

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

Or it's possible that as long as the corpse is relatively intact enough, the Keys can revive them irregardless of how long they have been corpses. Sort of like that episode in Doctor Who when Missy used Cybermen technology to revive all of the human dead who had beem dead for at least a century.

[Sandlemad]

 

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

Or it's possible that as long as the corpse is relatively intact enough, the Keys can revive them irregardless of how long they have been corpses. Sort of like that episode in Doctor Who when Missy used Cybermen technology to revive all of the human dead who had beem dead for at least a century.

Quite possible but it's still suspicious that someone - Ferrus or someone else in the legion - was keeping their bodies and wargear on ice for however many decades.

[Nomus Sardauk]

 

 

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

 

Or it's possible that as long as the corpse is relatively intact enough, the Keys can revive them irregardless of how long they have been corpses. Sort of like that episode in Doctor Who when Missy used Cybermen technology to revive all of the human dead who had beem dead for at least a century.

All this reminds me very strongly of the Reapers' Husk troops from the Mass Effect franchise, corpses reanimated via nanotech into relentless, unfeeling terror/shock troops, some are even Frankenstein-ish constructs made up of multiple bonded corpses to form more powerful monsters.

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

 

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

 

Or it's possible that as long as the corpse is relatively intact enough, the Keys can revive them irregardless of how long they have been corpses. Sort of like that episode in Doctor Who when Missy used Cybermen technology to revive all of the human dead who had beem dead for at least a century.

All this reminds me very strongly of the Reapers' Husk troops from the Mass Effect franchise, corpses reanimated via nanotech into relentless, unfeeling terror/shock troops, some are even Frankenstein-ish constructs made up of multiple bonded corpses to form more powerful monsters.

 

Won't lie, I was thinking more like every time you enter a cemetery in Resident Evil, but I think your analogy works a lot better.

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

Or it's possible that as long as the corpse is relatively intact enough, the Keys can revive them irregardless of how long they have been corpses. Sort of like that episode in Doctor Who when Missy used Cybermen technology to revive all of the human dead who had beem dead for at least a century.

Quite possible but it's still suspicious that someone - Ferrus or someone else in the legion - was keeping their bodies and wargear on ice for however many decades.

 

That would be dependent on the Legion's customs. It isn't exactly that far of a stretch considering how many historical customs we have and have had in the human race where we bury people fully dressed, or used to send them off while they are wearing their wargear, or put giant pyramids on top of them, their slaves, and all of their belongings.

 

So if the Iron Hands had a tradition of entombing the dead with their wargear, then it wouldn't be too weird that the bodies were just there, providing ample ammunition for a Key. If the Iron Hands had a practice of normally destroying the bodies and then recycling the wargear in a very 40K-esque faction, then yeah, it would end up being very weird. So depending on how it happens, it could be convenient, or conspiratorial.

[bluntblade]

"Who knows just what happens on Medusa?"

- Targutai Yesugei

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

 

 

 

It's heavily implied to be the work of the Keys of Hel, archaotech from the Dark Age of Technology deemed too dangerous to be used and therefore hidden across the Galaxy by Ferrus & the Iron Hands. Read: cybernetic resurrection & other nastiness.

 

Some of the Iron Hands went in search of the Keys after Isstvan and evidently some of them were successful.

 

Interesting note on resurrected Clan-Companies from the Great Crusade - suggesting that some were exposed to the Keys prior to their internement, so were likely hidden away alongside them. Either that of the Iron Hands willingly used them in secret during the Great Crusade in the aftermath of great losses - with Ferrus perhaps forming a secret reserve force of resurrected Astartes for whatever purpose.

Or it's possible that as long as the corpse is relatively intact enough, the Keys can revive them irregardless of how long they have been corpses. Sort of like that episode in Doctor Who when Missy used Cybermen technology to revive all of the human dead who had beem dead for at least a century.

Quite possible but it's still suspicious that someone - Ferrus or someone else in the legion - was keeping their bodies and wargear on ice for however many decades.

 

That would be dependent on the Legion's customs. It isn't exactly that far of a stretch considering how many historical customs we have and have had in the human race where we bury people fully dressed, or used to send them off while they are wearing their wargear, or put giant pyramids on top of them, their slaves, and all of their belongings.

 

So if the Iron Hands had a tradition of entombing the dead with their wargear, then it wouldn't be too weird that the bodies were just there, providing ample ammunition for a Key. If the Iron Hands had a practice of normally destroying the bodies and then recycling the wargear in a very 40K-esque faction, then yeah, it would end up being very weird. So depending on how it happens, it could be convenient, or conspiratorial.

 

 

Hmmmm - considering the Iron Hands are highly utilitarian social darwinists, I'd imagine they'd probably go for the latter - entombing their dead warriors with their wargear seems a little too sentimental for the X^th

[Forward Assist]

On a slightly related note, I'm hoping the desperate measures the Legions on both sides take to maintain their numbers gets expanded on in the future. I know the black shield rules can be used to represent them but it would be very cool if Iron Hands cyber zombies, World Eater inductii, Fabius' clones, and Raven Guard mutants were fleshed out more by FW.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

On a slightly related note, I'm hoping the desperate measures the Legions on both sides take to maintain their numbers gets expanded on in the future. I know the black shield rules can be used to represent them but it would be very cool if Iron Hands cyber zombies, World Eater inductii, Fabius' clones, and Raven Guard mutants were fleshed out more by FW.

 

Yeah hopefully this will be part of the planned changes the Legions will undergo as the series continues. It'd also be cool if the Keys of Hel are a bit more diverse than just cybernetic resurrection, things like nano-phages which destroy all organic matter they come into contact with, or highly intelligent scrapcode viruses.

[Laughingman]

I'm interested to see the "Keys of Hel" technology explored in greater detail. Given Ferrus Manus's plan to hide the technology rather then destroy it, he clearly saw constructive value in its continued existence. My guess, it was intended as a finial contingency plan to be used if legion was broken. Thus the dead pre-heresy clan companies deployment.