DrLoveMonkey Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 So I've started to construct some Shadow War teams in anticipation for actually playing it sometime next week. I've decided to make up two teams just for fun based on the Aliens and Predator teams using Cadians and Catachan respectively. Trying to go for a good mix of fluff and actually being good enough to have fun playing. Either way, this is my first attempt, have any of you guys who've played already got any insight on it? Is it good? Should I just take ten guardsmen with lasguns and a few upgrades sprinkled in? I'd love to see your teams as well! Goreman, leader, 170: 120 base 25 bolt pistol 25 chainsword Vasquez, SWO, 200: 70 base 100 heavy flamer 15 laspistol 15 hotshot Frost, SWO, 175: 70 base 40 Sniper 20 toxic rounds 20 red dot 20 telescopic 5 cammo cloak Hudson, SWO 195: 70 base 125 grenade launcher Hicks, vet 140: 60 base 20 shotgun 25 lasgun 20 red dot 15 hotshot Apone, vet 120: 60 base 25 lasgun 20 red dot 15 hotshot total 1000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 You're going to get pinned a lot. More models are better than well equipped models, as well equipped models that are pinned can't do anything. Equipping a model with lasgun and shotgun or even laspistol and flamer is too much in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Though I've not got the rules yet I would agree with Kilo. Numbers are Guard's friend, and from what I know of Necromunda's Shadow War's rules it's not a huge effort to remove a Guardsman from the equation even if temporary. You can always use some earned points in future battles to start tooling up your soldiers a bit :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLoveMonkey Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Yeah I thought that might be the case, oh well, I'll keep this list for its fluffiness and probably field one with many more people. I was initially concerned with ammo rolls, in which case giving models two guns might be more effective than an extra clip, but it doesn't really help when your whole force is on the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Exactly, think of it this way. Most weapons only have 1 shot. If you have 8 models vs your opponents 5 models, then turn over turn you could theoretically pin all 5 of them, while he also pins 5 of yours but you still have 3 models free to operate. Standard Lasguns on Vets (maybe with Red Dot) is enough to pin. While you have one other guy with a special to mop up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLoveMonkey Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Looking at it more, it might be hard to say. There's some armies like 'nids and space marines that are really resistant to pinning. I could probably afford to ditch the secondary weapons, especially since hotshot just counts as special ammo which when used up leaves regular lasgun ammo. Then again the hotshot pack does turn the lasgun into a worse boltgun for more points so eh... I'd really like to keep my heavy flamer though since it's my favourite converted model* from my army, but it seems silly to invest so many points in such a weak model. It might come down to what happened in my 40k experience of playing a few games where my giant blobs of guard were reduced to ash in a single shooting phase before I decide coolness isn't worth being tables turn 2 all the time. *back when I was much younger I didn't realize what a heavy flamer was really, all I knew is sentinals got them. So seeing as I couldn't find one that looked like that in my infantry sprues, and figuring I'd never use silly heavy flamers on sentinals(ugh) I concerted a special weapon guy to hold one of the sentinel heavy flamers, and thus Really Heavy Flamer Guy was born. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Remember the Melta and Plasma can still pin Harlequins and Tyranids due to being High Impact strength 7+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Angelus Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I'm looking to run Elysians using the Cadian skill table. To start with i'm looking at: Sergeant, Carapace, Bolt Pistol, Camo Gear - 170 Veteran, Carapace, Shotgun, Red Dot - 120 Veteran, Carapace, Shotgun, Red Dot - 120 Veteran, Carapace, Shotgun, Red Dot - 120 Veteran, Carapace, Shotgun, Krak Grenades - 140 Veteran, Carapace, Shotgun - 100 Specialist, Sniper Rifle, Camo Gear - 115 Specialist, Sniper Rifle, Camo Gear - 115 In the longer run the sergeant will gear towards combat (or rather counter attacking), and i'll acquire another specialist, with Melta or a grenade launcher. Snipers will pick up clip harnesses and toxic rounds. Other troops will acquire some grenades and the 2 without dots will get them, camo gear, plus back-up weapons for ammo fails. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icechiang Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I am working on an Arbites list using the IG rules. Almost got one worked out, I'll post it when I'm finished! I have some of the old models and love them. Also making a Steel Legion list too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332829-shadow-war-teams/#findComment-4707845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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