Lords of Preyspire Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Hi all, I have a few queries about creating a black shields army. I don't have book 6 yet so my idea might be totally rubbish. Fluff wise I would like to run a renegade space marine force, the upper echelons of which will be 1000 sons and other rogue librarian elements with mechanicum allies. I would really like to take a librarian commander (I gather that's not an option though) with a librarian consul. And use the outlander special rules. Beyond the Libby leader (can I add a knight errant to make that an option?) is all this possible. As I say I don't have the book so I can't work it all out. Cheers LoP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBOcaster Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yes you can add a Knight Errant but it still takes up your one allowed Consul slot (You can still take other Reaver Lords or basic Centurions), forces you to be Loyalist, and you then have to deal with the Knight Errant special mission rules added on. Also the Knight Errant does not benefit from the Black Shields Wrought By War special rule because he does not have the Legion Astartes (blackshieds) rule.EDIT: And as per usual Librarians are support officers and cannot be your compulsory HQ so you'll need a Reaver lord or a Centurion to take on that role. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lords of Preyspire Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Thanks for the speedy reply. Doh! Of course you would have to be a loyalist. Totally slipped my mind. We don't want that do we. So basically I can't run a librarian in a black shields force? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Thanks for the speedy reply. So basically I can't run a librarian in a black shields force?Sure you can.He can't be your compulsory HQ though due to his Support Officer rule. But you can take one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lords of Preyspire Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Ahhhhh one consul type! Sorry, long day. Thanks very much guys Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Also the Knight Errant does not benefit from the Black Shields Wrought By War special rule because he does not have the Legion Astartes (blackshieds) rule. Actually the Knight Errant would benefit from the rule as all Knight Errants (including Garro and Rubio) have the Legion Astartes special rule and would inherit it just like any other unit with the rule. Unless I'm missing something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lords of Preyspire Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 They haven't done a traitor equivalent of a knight errant have they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 They haven't done a traitor equivalent of a knight errant have they? Nope, there are no Agents of the Warmaster... yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lords of Preyspire Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 I could really do with the Reaver Lord having psychic levelling options. Ahhh well. Will fluff around it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBOcaster Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Also the Knight Errant does not benefit from the Black Shields Wrought By War special rule because he does not have the Legion Astartes (blackshieds) rule. Actually the Knight Errant would benefit from the rule as all Knight Errants (including Garro and Rubio) have the Legion Astartes special rule and would inherit it just like any other unit with the rule. Unless I'm missing something? Yes you are correct, they do only have Legion Astartes and as far as I can tell there is nothing saying they do not benefit from an army's Legion Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333433-black-shields-help/#findComment-4730970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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