Primaris Marines in 30k

[Tyrannicide]

Simple question really. We've seen the reveal of the new/larger/faster/stronger Marines GW has been working on, and while we all might differ in our opinions of the aesthetic or background choices made, is any one planning on including these models in their 30k army in some capacity?

 

For myself, I've spent the better part of 2 years 'art-scaling' Marines with the Dan the Daemon/Heinrich method of lengthening normal Marine legs. This certainly makes my job a lot easier, though I'm not a fan of the knee design or the hip plates if they are molded to the legs.

 

With some converting, I think the Primaris Marines would double nicely as void specialists or destroyers.

 

Wanted to take a quick gauge and see where everyone else's thoughts lie on the matter. :)

[StruManChu]

Honestly? It's inevitable that we'll see them (models, not unit) make the jump to the glorious echelons of 30k armies that we know and love. The models and bits are just too good.

 

It's close enough looking to Mk IV that you could probably just say it's so-and-so Forgeworld's way of manufacturing Mk IV. Sarum does those weird helmets for the XII, why not have someone else doing something different?

[Gorgoff]

Never.

[Phatsquirre1]

I certainly won't be. I like the models, to a degree, but not enough to buy them. 

 

They could, however, be decent enough as a basis for the RG/AL/EC experiments.

[Dantay VI]

Hmm if a lot of height is in the legs then they could be kit bashed as deathsworn/ proto wulfen

[betrayer41]

Hmm if a lot of height is in the legs then they could be kit bashed as deathsworn/ proto wulfen

 

I will never run them as is in 30k. Just won't happen i respect the 30k fluff too much.

 

However i don't mind trying otu helmets and possibly legs.

 

I plan on kitbashing the legs with wulfen. 

 

Plan on doing a whole "black cull" compnay more or less.

[Dantay VI]

The legs and heads would be the only parts to interest me too.

[Daemon2027]

I want to see their scale in person but there's a chance I'll use them as regular marines. Saves a lot of time with truescaling.

[Tyrannicide]

To be clear, I meant for this to be a purely models discussion. I have no interest in shoe-horning the Primaris Marines into the 30k universe. I would rather run a cheese grater over my nipples before doing that.

[betrayer41]

To be clear, I meant for this to be a purely models discussion. I have no interest in shoe-horning the Primaris Marines into the 30k universe. I would rather run a cheese grater over my nipples before doing that.

Oh in that case there seem to be tons of fun bits to use. Helmets, legs, could totally see the plasmas being used. The bolters turned into sniper or something

[Lord Blackwood]

If yer doing true scale it gives you options I would imagine. 

I have no interest in including them in my 30k  armies  because then all my other stuff will look small and derpy. 

 

[Tyrannicide]

If yer doing true scale it gives you options I would imagine. 

 

I have no interest in including them in my 30k  armies  because then all my other stuff will look small and derpy. 

 

 

 

True, and a very good point.

 

However, these do provide an instant method to jumpstart a 'truescale' army. I understand you would have scale issues within an existing army of normal marines, but starting fresh gives you a multitude of options with the Primaris as a basis for 'truescale' models.

[Lord Blackwood]

Thats the thing though , I  dont want to start fresh , I have built 3 legions I am very proud of with the existing miniatures , and I  dont want to true scale. 

Its a great option for folks who do , but as weve come to that point , you cant really half measure it with these things , putting them in our existing armies will  throw off scale , and Ive built  the 3 legions I wanna play so these are really just sorta there , I cant use em , I  have no use for em unless im adding them to my 40k armies 

[Luna707]

I prefer the look of my truescale marines so I don't believe I will be partaking, however I am incredibly excited to see others convert them to 30k.

 

With swaps to the head, power plant, and bolter in addition to some simple green stuff work on the legs and torso, these could easily pass for MK IV Astartes in the heresy era. With these larger bodies so readily available, the bar to enter truescaling will be drastically lower and the prospect of a full artscale army will be far less formidable to novice hobbiests. I had to do tons of research and ruin quite a few models and bits to figure out a truescaling method that I enjoyed, but now others won't have to! Honestly nothing in this hobby would make me happier than to see more armies that reflect warhammer art and lore to a greater extent than the current heroic based models.

 

(Modeling aside I think the Astartes 2.0 fluff is pretty silly and breaks a few of the truly novel themes of warhammer but I lost interest in 40k a while ago so it doesn't bother me much, especially when 30k is in the far more capable Hands of Forgeworld)

[StruManChu]

As an aside, they'd make pretty sweet Blackshield Chymeriae with the right paint job.

[Olis]

Currently, I don't believe they have a place in 30k. I'm not sure I have much else to say in regard to using Primaris marines in HH that doesn't boil back down to my first sentence. *shrug*

 

But they are very nice models, and I'd be keen to get some for maybe a 40k kill team or something.

[civsmitty]

Stealing two to make Alpharius...es. Alpharii? Alphareese?

[Wolf Lord Loki]

Possibly as 'heroes of the Legion' marking out your slightly larger than life characters with actually larger models....

 

And they are just ornate enough to pull it off.

[JeffJedi]

Never.

"NEVERMORE," don't you mean?

[Plaguecaster]

As an aside, they'd make pretty sweet Blackshield Chymeriae with the right paint job.

That actually may be a good idea and will be even more interesting when mixed with gal Vorbak and possessed bits for my daemon possessed black shield warband as Iv been looking for a good way of showing the difference with chymeriae marines compared to normal marines and this may just be it :D hopefully the arms should be compatible with FW ones

[Soldier of Dorn]

Don't really have any solid plans at the moment, that'll have to wait until I get the bits in hand, but it seems likely that the 284th Storm Battalion will be getting maybe a couple larger-than-average Marines among its troops.

[Laughingman]

The irony of the Primaris space marines is that they fill the same role the tactical legionaries held in the Horus Hersey. Which indicates the reorganization of space marine chapters into more legion "like" organizations. 

 

On topic: They will likely be decent for true scale true scale hobbyist to convert for HH era stuff.

[Marshal Rohr]

They are shorter or the same height as my artscale conversions and mark 3 is bulky enough to match the new leg girth. If anything it just shows how they should've rescaled the marine line in 2013 when they started the Heresy, if they had known what stupid :cuss-ery the clown :cuss in the studio would drag out eventually.

[Jackalwolf]

I love the models, they're simply fantastic and very well proportioned. I will buy some as soon as they're out and I suspect that as soon as I see an old marine besides them I won't be able to use the old ones anymore.

We have yet to see them side by side a regular marine but someone has made quite a good composition if you compare the bases. If it's anything like this I'm done with old marines:

[Jackalwolf]

P.S.: As a last hope to stick with heresy armor patterns I've developed my own MK of armor based on SW torsos, MKIII arms and backpacks and Ashen Circle legs. Will post the results later today.