Dantay VI Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Does that mean you will give me all your HH Wolves for free ;) ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Haha not for free but there's potential there :P BUT I hope my last attempt brings my SW in line or close to the new primaris guys. If they're as tall as Autilon Skorr I'm already there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 P.S.: As a last hope to stick with heresy armor patterns I've developed my own MK of armor based on SW torsos, MKIII arms and backpacks and Ashen Circle legs. Will post the results later today. That is literally all just MKIII, so no worries there :-) That's also my concern with these new marines. I love the new scale, but they fall into the same trap as a lot of other true scale-esque conversions; that of matching era-appropriate armour marks. A lot of people sacrifice the defined armour marks to improve the scale of their marines, which in my opinion is just not an overall improvement as you gain one positive but lose another. I hope anyone aiming to use these as true scale marines in the Heresy does them and the era justice, appropriately converting them to properly match up to the different armour marks :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 As an aside, they'd make pretty sweet Blackshield Chymeriae with the right paint job. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If that shot is true, they will make even terminators look wee. I will stick to then "normal" scale for marines If I lose a game then "ah you beat my little dudes with your mega marines.... No big deal" however if I win "lol your mega marines got beat up by my regular marines :p" sarcasm in the last part for clarification Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If that shot is true, they will make even terminators look wee. I will stick to then "normal" scale for marines If I lose a game then "ah you beat my little dudes with your mega marines.... No big deal" however if I win "lol your mega marines got beat up by my regular marines :p" sarcasm in the last part for clarification Lmao, I'm still hoping the difference is not that big but will be impossible to know until GW does release a direct comparison or we have em on our hands. The only alternative I see is make it be MKIV reinforced armor by swapping the kneepads and changing the front of the torso a bit. Do you guys see FW anytime upping their scale? I don't think it's too feasible honestly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 They have 2A base and an extra W. The bolters are also slightly better at 30" S4 AP-1. That's it, currently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 A dream come true for all you truescalers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Effrit Terror squad (stolen gal vorbak) just got minis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If that shot is true, they will make even terminators look wee. I will stick to then "normal" scale for marines If I lose a game then "ah you beat my little dudes with your mega marines.... No big deal" however if I win "lol your mega marines got beat up by my regular marines :p" sarcasm in the last part for clarification Lmao, I'm still hoping the difference is not that big but will be impossible to know until GW does release a direct comparison or we have em on our hands. The only alternative I see is make it be MKIV reinforced armor by swapping the kneepads and changing the front of the torso a bit. Do you guys see FW anytime upping their scale? I don't think it's too feasible honestly. Forge World could actually up the scale faster and cheaper than the studio. They could release a set of each mark SigMarine sized with far less material and financial investment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4742963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If that shot is true, they will make even terminators look wee. I will stick to then "normal" scale for marines If I lose a game then "ah you beat my little dudes with your mega marines.... No big deal" however if I win "lol your mega marines got beat up by my regular marines :p" sarcasm in the last part for clarification Lmao, I'm still hoping the difference is not that big but will be impossible to know until GW does release a direct comparison or we have em on our hands. The only alternative I see is make it be MKIV reinforced armor by swapping the kneepads and changing the front of the torso a bit. Do you guys see FW anytime upping their scale? I don't think it's too feasible honestly. Forge World could actually up the scale faster and cheaper than the studio. They could release a set of each mark SigMarine sized with far less material and financial investment. [Goldblum] We were so busy asking if they could, we forgot to start asking if they should! [/Goldblum] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4743004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 So I finished my first six veterans to match the new big boys of Guilliman in scale and not look like dwarves. Introducing... Grieuxmarines! http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/5D2ECD32-22E0-4A0F-9199-032307F889E4_zpsiewa5tul.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/1B8C15FD-CCC0-4753-8C72-1D28ED996806_zpsby2b6oug.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/03438D9B-4431-4DE7-8A79-E4D3B289794D_zpsot3oowxh.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/13E3E3F7-AC20-40CF-B26D-7787194A77FA_zps6z9uo910.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/D1BB7A54-3C82-4ADB-AF5A-6A5DB59D0829_zpsz1vst8qu.jpg So far I've converted the first batch of six veterans that would make my first squad. It's massively painful in time and money to make these so I need to decide if I finish both squads. What are your thoughts guys: - Do they work? - Do you think they'll be big enough to compare against the primaris marines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4743678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Well, fluff-wise the 'Primaris' marines are unleashed in M41. Why should they thus appear in 30k ? They weren't even invented. Also, seriously, bigger marines ? Was that really necessary after the Centurion rubbish ? Bigger pelvis plates, aww yiss ! /sarcasm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4743703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If/When i pick AL again i would love to do an entire army of Primaris and actually be able to sneak alphy and omegon around haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4743710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
talos402000 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Oh you poor naïve man. GW will find a way to shoehorn them in, even if they have to retcon the whole damm thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4743746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 So I finished my first six veterans to match the new big boys of Guilliman in scale and not look like dwarves. Introducing... Grieuxmarines! http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/5D2ECD32-22E0-4A0F-9199-032307F889E4_zpsiewa5tul.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/1B8C15FD-CCC0-4753-8C72-1D28ED996806_zpsby2b6oug.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/03438D9B-4431-4DE7-8A79-E4D3B289794D_zpsot3oowxh.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/13E3E3F7-AC20-40CF-B26D-7787194A77FA_zps6z9uo910.jpg http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah128/Grieux/Vlka%20Fenryka/D1BB7A54-3C82-4ADB-AF5A-6A5DB59D0829_zpsz1vst8qu.jpg So far I've converted the first batch of six veterans that would make my first squad. It's massively painful in time and money to make these so I need to decide if I finish both squads. What are your thoughts guys: - Do they work? - Do you think they'll be big enough to compare against the primaris marines? Great work with these! I love that idea, those legs add a bit of height while still keeping the torsos usable. No idea how they will compare with Primaris but I think they will be close enough to look good next to them. I think this thread is more about using the Primaris models for conversions and less so about the lore side of Primaris being put into 30k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4743757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 pretty curious on how they scale compared to the gal Vorbak as the word bearer elite are bigger than normal marines but will they be bigger than the gal Vorbak Hopefully they won't then I can field them and laugh at primus marine players for having smaller marines :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 They could form the basis for some Raven Guard Raptor conversions. They were supposed to be Marine++ so that could work but obviously they don't have rules yet. Cheers Vogon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Well, fluff-wise the 'Primaris' marines are unleashed in M41. Why should they thus appear in 30k ? They weren't even invented. Also, seriously, bigger marines ? Was that really necessary after the Centurion rubbish ? Bigger pelvis plates, aww yiss ! /sarcasm There are a few of us who have been making bigger marines for a while now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 In fairness they look like Tru-scale MKIV Marines. The models are spectacular. So much so that I'm having real issues with my existing army that I LITERALLY JUST COMPLETED!!! AAARGH Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Well, my tinfoil hat theory (feel free to take this however you wish, on a scale from "Woodward & Bernstein" to "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams!") is: GW is phasing out the current scale of Marines, and will do so over a period of 2-4 years. We'll see the full range redone with "primaris" style Marines (and Chaos, as well). This is being done to ensure a difference between the HH model range and the 40k range; they don't want us to double-dip the same models for both. However, the Primarch and organization of the Primaris marines will be similar to how Legions work. To tempt the holdouts over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I've already decided to start a 40k army exclusively with these new proportionate miniatures, I don't give a damn of rules or fluff, they may well be just space marines in my list but the models are just so good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggtand Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Grieux, they look really good! Have you done anything else to extend the figure other than kit bashing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Thanks mate, nope it's only kit bashing. FW varies greatly in the scale of their figures, ranging from disproportionate as old GW to almost perfect proportions like the palatine blades, ashen circle et al. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggtand Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Perfect! Thanks for the answer. I really like the look of the legs together with the mk III. Time to make some Grieuxmarines for the Rout Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333650-primaris-marines-in-30k/page/2/#findComment-4744831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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