Splog Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm hoping the HH ends with the line it started with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4776001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Indefragable 'Alpha Legion: juicy one. Probably same as the other Istvaaners' - nope, Watch Pack assigned to AL was killed by Alpharius in Hunter's Moon (Audio Drama) by Haley. Good catch. I'll update. I forgot about that one. I actually read it in the anthology. I didn't realize it was about a Watchpack lol. You're welcome. Glad to help Edited June 8, 2017 by HeritorA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4776185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKCougar Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm hoping the HH ends with the line it started with. I may be disappointed if it doesn't. Not nerd rage disappointed, but I do think it would be a perfect Capstone to the final moments of the Heresy. Then I want to see the Scouring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm hoping the HH ends with the line it started with. I may be disappointed if it doesn't. Not nerd rage disappointed, but I do think it would be a perfect Capstone to the final moments of the Heresy. Then I want to see the Scouring. seems like we're already getting scouring bits corax/russ in corax fulgrim v roboute in dark imperium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKCougar Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) I'm hoping the HH ends with the line it started with.I may be disappointed if it doesn't. Not nerd rage disappointed, but I do think it would be a perfect Capstone to the final moments of the Heresy. Then I want to see the Scouring. seems like we're already getting scouring bits corax/russ in corax fulgrim v roboute in dark imperium Corax/Russ is post-Malice above the Palace? I thought it was pre- for some reason. Edit: it is pre-siege of terra. Corax sends off his "Long Shadows" to Terra, in which is included a Librarian to receive Malcador's judgement. Edited June 12, 2017 by NKCougar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm hoping the HH ends with the line it started with.I may be disappointed if it doesn't. Not nerd rage disappointed, but I do think it would be a perfect Capstone to the final moments of the Heresy. Then I want to see the Scouring. seems like we're already getting scouring bits corax/russ in corax fulgrim v roboute in dark imperium Corax/Russ is post-Malice above the Palace? I thought it was pre- for some reason. Edit: it is pre-siege of terra. Corax sends off his "Long Shadows" to Terra, in which is included a Librarian to receive Malcador's judgement. Just a question an how that event from 'Corax' anthology has anything to do with 'The Scouring' period? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKCougar Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm hoping the HH ends with the line it started with.I may be disappointed if it doesn't. Not nerd rage disappointed, but I do think it would be a perfect Capstone to the final moments of the Heresy. Then I want to see the Scouring. seems like we're already getting scouring bits corax/russ in corax fulgrim v roboute in dark imperium Corax/Russ is post-Malice above the Palace? I thought it was pre- for some reason. Edit: it is pre-siege of terra. Corax sends off his "Long Shadows" to Terra, in which is included a Librarian to receive Malcador's judgement. Just a question an how that event from 'Corax' anthology has anything to do with 'The Scouring' period? It doesn't. I went back to re-read the part he was talking about, and it is most definitely before the Scouring, before even the Siege of Terra. Horus is still alive during that time frame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 @NKCougar. The epilogue of Corax is where he decides the fates of the raptors and also notes how his Legion have taken new names and gone their own way. Iirc it even states that the Emperor is gone. So that part is Scouring era. The Corax/Russ parts on Yarant are pre-siege. HeritorA and hopkins 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 see, i was half right russ was in his primarch book Biscuittzz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4780842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKCougar Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 @NKCougar. The epilogue of Corax is where he decides the fates of the raptors and also notes how his Legion have taken new names and gone their own way. Iirc it even states that the Emperor is gone. So that part is Scouring era. The Corax/Russ parts on Yarant are pre-siege. Yeah, the epilogue is in that time period. I want to see the Fists and Ultramarines rampage on the traitors, more specifically though. Especially the Black Templars going nutty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4781025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 'Especially the Black Templars going nutty.' - or one particular 'Black Templar' going nutty? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4782485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKCougar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 'Especially the Black Templars going nutty.' - or one particular 'Black Templar' going nutty? One in particular, yes. Show him cutting a bloody swathe through traitors, why he was named Champion, and especially show me his pursuit of Abaddon - that quote in the end of Black Legion sets up that storyline perfectly. Jarl Kjaran Coldheart 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4792564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 'Especially the Black Templars going nutty.' - or one particular 'Black Templar' going nutty? One in particular, yes. Show him cutting a bloody swathe through traitors, why he was named Champion, and especially show me his pursuit of Abaddon - that quote in the end of Black Legion sets up that storyline perfectly. I'm not even going to pretend. The idea of Sigismund going all out on the traitors makes me tingle from my head to my toes I usually skip a limited-edition books, but that is one I am definitely buying R_F_D 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4792566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I hope Sig ends some famous Traitors Jarl Kjaran Coldheart and Augustus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4792577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKCougar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 'Especially the Black Templars going nutty.' - or one particular 'Black Templar' going nutty? One in particular, yes. Show him cutting a bloody swathe through traitors, why he was named Champion, and especially show me his pursuit of Abaddon - that quote in the end of Black Legion sets up that storyline perfectly. I'm not even going to pretend. The idea of Sigismund going all out on the traitors makes me tingle from my head to my toes I usually skip a limited-edition books, but that is one I am definitely buying Of course he does, Swagismund does that to (nearly) everyone. I'll be all over Sigismund fluff as soon as it comes out. Unfortunate that ADB has postponed his Black Legion stories, so looked forward to the final duel. I think another Scouring story to see will be the Blood Angels. They will be the hardest hit legion after the Heresy, hands down, but I'm sure Azkaellon and the Flesh Tearer will be chewing up traitors left and right. The Scouring will be bad times for them, I think, with the Black Rage waxing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4792592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) All the famous Traitors survive the Siege... 1. Lucius, Julius Kaesoron, Fabius (not sure about Eidolon), 2. Khârn 3. Typhon 4. Ahriman, Amon 5. Abbadon 6. Erebus, Kor Phaeron Sig could beat Khârn...Khorne then resurrects him. The latter is pretty well-established fluff. Maybe he could off Delvarus? No...but Delvarus makes it to the Scouring, no? Aximand will probably face Loken. There's one other famous Traitor who could be a famous victim of Sig...but it doesn't really fit his current character arc. I'm sure you all know to whom I'm referring ;) Edited June 22, 2017 by b1soul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4792747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Eidolon has a fluff entry in the EC Index Astartes series (White Dwarf 255 which was in 2001 so 3rd edition?) which suggests he made it off Terra but may have died after Lord Eidolon was the first Space Marine selected by Fulgrim to lead an entire company of the Emperors Children, and was commonly regarded as the most proficient of all the Lord Commanders. Until the corruption of the Legion, Eidolon dedicated himself to mastering all aspects of warfare. His troops fought equally well in sieges, holding actions, rapid strikes and gruelling campaigns, never displaying any inexperience or inefficiency no matter what was demanded of them. Eidolon regarded Fulgrim as a father in the literal sense, considering his bond of gene-seed to be as strong as true parentage. Though he accepted that he could never equal the Primarch in power. Eidolon nevertheless spent every waking moment studying Fulgrim's tactics and strategies, his writings and orations, in the hope of being as close to his leader's perfection as he could possibly become. Despite considerable effort, scholars in the service of the Inquisition have been unable to determine whether or not Eidolon survived the Siege of Terra. Unsubstantiated rumours claim that Eidolon is responsible for hundreds, if not thousands, of gruesome raids on Imperial worlds in the past ten thousand years, and have suggested he may have served as lieutenant to Abaddon the Despoiler, consort to Queen Sylelle and champion of the Daemon Prince N'Kari. No Inquisitor has yet succeeded in locating the source of these rumours, but. without undisputable evidence, the Inquisition will not declare Eidolon dead. Sandlemad 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4792803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 All the famous Traitors survive the Siege... 1. Lucius, Julius Kaesoron, Fabius (not sure about Eidolon), 2. Khârn 3. Typhon 4. Ahriman, Amon 5. Abbadon 6. Erebus, Kor Phaeron Sig could beat Khârn...Khorne then resurrects him. The latter is pretty well-established fluff. Maybe he could off Delvarus? No...but Delvarus makes it to the Scouring, no? Aximand will probably face Loken. There's one other famous Traitor who could be a famous victim of Sig...but it doesn't really fit his current character arc. I'm sure you all know to whom I'm referring Kaesoron alive - he is mentioned in the 'Wraith of Iron' prominently. As per other big names you mentioned. Sigi faced Khârn and killed him but as we know Khorne likes Khârn (Khârn for Khorne is like Agriman for Tzeentch - amazing plaything) and ressurrected him later to fully follow the Red Path. Delvarus is alive - A D-B mentioned him as still kicking in his 'Black Legion'. Plus as per Lothara rebuke in one amazing book I do not think he would teleport to the Palace from a ship which he is 'HONOR BOUND' to guard Aximand will be chopped by Loken - think so too. 'There's one other famous Traitor who could be a famous victim of Sig' - whome do you mean? Eidolon survived till M32 as a fact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Not Eidolon...it's an easy guess ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Not Eidolon...it's an easy guess I'm tired today, hard guerssing today - so you could spill it out for me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I assume he means Sevatar. Personally I've been thinking the same thing ever since their duel was mentioned in prince of crows - no way they'd mention that without some pay off, especially with Sigismund's comment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Yeah...but Sev's repressed psychic exertions recently made his brain bleed. I'm not sure how he's gonna return to fighting form...he has to fix that problem somehow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Weren't his reflexes and senses enhanced when he went psyker at the end of PoC? Maybe he'll do it again on Terra, evening or even beating the odds against Siggy, and just as he has him on the ropes another brain pop happens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Weren't his reflexes and senses enhanced when he went psyker at the end of PoC? Maybe he'll do it again on Terra, evening or even beating the odds against Siggy, and just as he has him on the ropes another brain pop happens. I can't even imagine Sev fighting in the Siege, at this point. He's lost all belief in either side. And although there are probably 10-20 Space Marines that could get Siege-era Sigismund on the ropes, those would likely be brief/lucky moments at best in a losing battle. Anyone going up against Siege-era Sigismund isn't going home to their kids afterwards. JH79, Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, MasterofMankind and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Mmm, he might have lost all belief but what else is there for him? Somehow I don't see Sevatar retiring on an agriworld and becoming a local taxidermy expert :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333974-the-lion-wolf-king-and-howl-of-the-hearthworld/page/3/#findComment-4797691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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