CrimsonExarch Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Here is a link to the images. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/gallery/album/13178-8th-edition-ba-and-sm-relevent-leaksdatasheets/ Time to start brewing! Discuss! vahouth and tkni 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Man, I wish I could read them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I made a thread for it in the Rumor section here. Chaplain Gunzhard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) Death company can't take power fists..... Libby dread has less attacks than a furioso? Edited May 29, 2017 by Brother Lemartes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Death company can't take power fists..... Use your eyes brother ;) Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) oops! why isn't it in the list of other weapons with the stats? Edited May 29, 2017 by Brother Lemartes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The terminator ancient is really an odd duck. It's just 1 model - with "a" Lightning claw... wth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Sanguinary ancient sounds interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The terminator ancient is really an odd duck. It's just 1 model - with "a" Lightning claw... wth? Other hand holding the banner. Valerian 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The terminator ancient is really an odd duck. It's just 1 model - with "a" Lightning claw... wth? Other hand holding the banner. Yeah it's more the 'unit of 1' that I find odd, and we don't have any specific Blood Angel Terminators... it looks like we'd just draw from the SM list. After Angel's Blade that seems really weird to me, the book was so focused on 1st-company formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The terminator ancient is really an odd duck. It's just 1 model - with "a" Lightning claw... wth? Other hand holding the banner. Yeah it's more the 'unit of 1' that I find odd, and we don't have any specific Blood Angel Terminators... it looks like we'd just draw from the SM list. After Angel's Blade that seems really weird to me, the book was so focused on 1st-company formations. All of the banner bearers have been made into independent characters, essentially. He has 5 Wounds! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) So overcharged engines are only used when you advance... Edited May 29, 2017 by vahouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I'd like to thank the lead designer for lying to me about Cataphractii and Tartaros Indefragable, Spagunk, m0nolith and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 What's the original source for these images, they are loading funny on my phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Chief Librarian Mephiston and Commander Dante sound oddly specific compared to "Astorath" and "Lemartes". Almost like they might be future proofing for alternate versions. Tycho's digital lasers forgotten again Boltgun death company lose the pistol, not the chainsword. I'm now down 1 terminator in my terminator force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Only thing i don't like so far is the Black Rage rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Only thing i don't like so far is the Black Rage rule. Why? It's Rage and Feel No Pain, just in a form more fit for the edition. Valerian 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Only thing i don't like so far is the Black Rage rule. Why? It's Rage and Feel No Pain, just in a form more fit for the edition. No it's not. DC went from +2 attacks, +1 str on the charge, a 5+ FNP and Fearless, to just a +1 attack and 6+ "FNP" So they lost 1 attack, their "ignore wounds" ability was effectively halved, from 1/3 to 1/6 and are not immune to psychology anymore. Sure, what's not to like? :P Blindhamster 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 One can only hope that the edition is harsh for everyone else i guess... seeing as it's all going to be so 'balanced'. I want to know what calgar is like by comparison... Issue with dante: he lost his initiative score which made him uniquely fast for a loyalist marine. And he lost his strategic AND precision abilities. And yet costs only 10 points less. Helias_Tancred, Chaplain Gunzhard, Indefragable and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Hence why I said fit for the new edition :P The FNP is worse against small arms, but can now also work against guns that would have previously caused instant death, not a great tradeoff but its okay. No one gets +1A on the charge now except for through special rules, so DC still get an "extra" attack on the charge over the norm, like what rage used to give. If you get me. Bronze Beast in the Dark 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Considering the rules berzerkers have... and wulfen are likely to have... nah, death company were flat out nerfed. Helias_Tancred, vahouth, Chaplain Gunzhard and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Flamers & Fragcannon drop pods are dead though. I'm a sad panda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Will look at them in depth tomorrow and hope that we are balanced compared to the rest. As someone who loathed, no, utterly abhorred the change from second to third, these leaks aren't abating my fears. Chaplain Gunzhard and Helias_Tancred 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I don't know, I guess I'm in the minority but I like what I see so far. Death Company are the only disappointment but they do cost less ... I don't think we can judge until we've seen all of this in context with other armies. Is it just me or are Sanguinary Guard getting a nice boost? They are cheaper, their weapons are better, and they have 2 wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Yeah, I'm liking how sanguinary guard look. Also, I noticed we have an "encarmine broadsword" in our wargear... Furioso fists seem better than blood talons. You can do more damage with talons, but the fists let you reroll and are a guaranteed 3 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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