Spiritual Liege Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hello, making another list again. Probably not making this in a long time either, just wanted to do a list. It represent World Eaters after the fall, just bloodthrirsty killers with no reason anymore. If I'd make the list someday, they would be painted in the awesome white and red colourscheme found in Retribution. Here it goes: +++ The Crimson Path (Warhammer 30,000 - The Horus Heresy) [2496pts] +++ ++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2496pts] ++ + HQ + Gahlan Surlak [110pts] Khârn the Bloody [190pts]: Legacy of Blood + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment [60pts] . . Legion Apothecary: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Jump Pack Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [236pts]: Veteran Tactics: Weaponmasters . . Legion Veteran Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Legion Vexilla . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Axe The Red Butchers [405pts]: 4x Butcher Terminator, 4x Second Power Axe . . Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod: Frag Assault Launchers . . The Devoured: Chainfist, Power Fist, Second Power Axe + Troops + Legion Assault Squad [430pts]: 19x Legion Assault Space Marines . . Additional Wargear: Combat Shields . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Legion Assault Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon Legion Tactical Squad [155pts]: Augmented Inductii, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines . . Additional Wargear: Chainswords/Combat Blades . . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Fist Legion Tactical Squad [155pts]: Augmented Inductii, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines . . Additional Wargear: Chainswords/Combat Blades . . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Fist + Fast Attack + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers + Heavy Support + Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [410pts]: Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod . . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Armoured Ceramite, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Siege Drill, Phosphex Discharger + Allegiance + Legiones Astartes: Traitor . . XII: World Eaters: Blood Madness Rite of War: The Crimson Path Not a great deal of anti tank or scoring, but who cares about scoring when there is blood in the air. Thoughts, criticism, anything Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 Some peoples' lists just aren't meant to receive comments it seems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4773822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagher Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I'm still fairely new to the World eaters so I don't know everything. Something I would do would bei to swap one of the power swords in the assault squad to a axe in order to have a bit of ap2 with them. I'm also not sure if every member in the assault squad needs a power sword, with Khârn and surlak it might be a bit of an overkill, but I don't know where else to put the points. The point about tanks is solid so you need to target them first. Apart from that it looks really fluffy and fun to play, the 12th never cared about objektives to begin with. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4775005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Fair point about swapping some swords for axes, but honestly their sergeant already takes care of any enemy sergeants and they shouldn't be in combat with artificer/terminator armour in the first place, I've got Butchers and Khârn for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4775303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagher Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Weight of dice actually makes normal marines pretty good against 2+ saves if they get the charge. With butchers it is more of a mutually asured destruction thanks to PF ignoring their second wound. Against targets in power armour an axe or two won't make a difference because they will be dead before they strike but, if you have to attack some terminators that bonus ap might come in handy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4775395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogedei Khan Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Looks tremendous! I would put the meltas on the leviathan personally, for a token nod to anti tank. But then if you're podding them in, you're going to throw them into glorious slaughter anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4775449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Leviathan still got two meltaguns in the claw and drill and it's going to pod in turn 1, weather the storm and then charge in and rip whatever it comes across into little pieces. He is my answer to Primarchs with the claw and to Knights and tanks with the drill. Also Inductii have s10 fist on their sergeants and Butchers got a chainfist, so while I don't have much dedicates AT, almost every one of my units can do some AT work if armour comes across. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4775494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Honestly, I think it's hard to improve on what you already have. You're already running my favorite Leviathan setup - I run a full talon of three in my NL Terror Assault list, and the one with the claw/drill combo is always the one who pulls the most weight in every game. Butchers look good too - as long as you have a chainfist on the Devoured, you won't have a bad day if you run into something their axes can't crack. So those are set. Inductii are great - since they're not scoring anyway I'd be inclined to just combine the two units to make one massive Inductii squad and toss them in a Kharybdis to just drown almost anything in the weight of their attacks, but that's just my personal take. And you'd still keep an odd number of drop pods so that wouldn't affect their deployment. I'm assuming Khârn and Surlak are going with the Vets? If so I'd toss a power fist or a thunder hammer on the Sergeant just for some higher strength attacks in the unit, but that's all I'd change and again that's just my preference. Again, great looking list. I think this would be pretty nasty to line up across from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4777177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Thanks. The main thing is why the Inductii are 2 squads instead of one is the price of a Kharybdis. If I ever plan on making something like this, the Kharybdis is just too expensive a kit for me to buy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4777375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Good plan. Would look cool in that scheme! Now, are you locked into Assault Marines? They are eating up your points, that's all. World Eaters don't care for scoring units, so go for mass Inductii! :) Also, Red Butchers can't take a Dreadclaw as a Dedicated Transport anymore. There was a rule attached to Dreadclaws allowing any Terminator unit of 5 or less models to take one, but as of the "Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List", it no longer exists. Not sure why Battlescribe still has it as an option. Carnivore's suggestion of a Kharybdis (or two!) is a good one. Pricey model, yes, but it's so amazing! Yes, it does have Drop Pod Assault, so going for odd pods is the business. This list might do what you're looking for: HQ Khârn the Bloody: Rite of War (The Crimson Path); Gorechild 190 Gahlan Surlak xxx TROOPS 19 Augmented Inductii: Augmented Inductii Sergeant (artificer armour; power fist); 18 Augmented Inductii; chainaxes; legion vexilla 250 19 Augmented Inductii: Augmented Inductii Sergeant (artificer armour; power fist); 18 Augmented Inductii; chainaxes; legion vexilla 250 ELITES 8 Veteran Space Marines: Veteran Sergeant (artificer armour; power fist); Weaponmasters; 7 Veteran Space Marines; 7 × chainaxe; legion vexilla 171 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: artificer armour; chainaxe; augury scanner 60 • Apothecary: artificer armour; chainaxe; augury scanner 60 5 Red Butcher Terminators: Devoured (chainfist; thunder hammer); 4 Red Butcher Terminators; 4 × second power axe 295 FAST ATTACK Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod xxx Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod xxx HEAVY SUPPORT Leviathan Pattern Siege Dreadnought Talon • Leviathan Pattern Siege Dreadnought: Leviathan siege drill; armoured ceramite; phosphex discharger 310 • Dreadnought Drop Pod xxx Kharybdis Assault Claw xxx Kharybdis Assault Claw xxx 2,496 points Khârn & Gahlan in the Vets, with an Apothecary in each Inductii Squad (they boost their FNP, and if they die you'll only have lost 1 point of it). Still has 5 pods, but 2 of them are Special K's! For anti-Tank, you have S10 power fists on the Inductii Sergeants, a chainfist on the Devoured, the Leviathan, and Khârn's Armourbane axe. Also, as close combat is resolved against Rear Armour, don't underestimate the Inductii's chainaxes (4 S6 AP4 attacks each on the charge). They will wreck almost all non-Land Raider vehicles. Finally, Dreadclaws and Kharybdi have their Fire Sweep attacks, which are also resolved against the weakest armour facing - they are surprisingly good at taking out vehicles! Of course if the Kharybdis is definitely out of your budget (try to save £ or it!), then finding the balance of pods is tricky: - you really need at least 5 to make an impactful 1st Turn. - Dreadpods are gone from FW (hopefully just for now). - you want to be in the enemy deployment zone with "Crimson Path". An alternative is going for "Berserker Assault", as it gives Hatred outside your deployment zone - much easier to achieve than the FNP bonus of "Crimson Path". This reduces the reliance on Drop Pod Assault. Food for thought. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4777535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Oh, that complicates things a little. I made another draft, this time using Berserker Assault and some Land Raiders: +++ New Roster (Warhammer 30,000 - The Horus Heresy) [2986pts] +++ ++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2986pts] ++ + HQ + Gahlan Surlak [110pts] Khârn the Bloody [190pts]: Legacy of Blood + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment [60pts] . . Legion Apothecary: Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner, Chainsword/Combat Blade Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [191pts]: Veteran Tactics: Weaponmasters . . Legion Veteran Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter . . . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Legion Vexilla . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade . . Legion Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade The Red Butchers [290pts]: 4x Butcher Terminator, 4x Second Power Axe . . The Devoured: Chainfist, Power Fist, Second Power Axe + Troops + Legion Tactical Squad [260pts]: Augmented Inductii, 19x Legion Tactical Space Marines . . Additional Wargear: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Legion Vexilla . . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Power Fist Legion Tactical Squad [160pts]: 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines . . Additional Wargear: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Legion Vexilla . . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Power Fist Legion Tactical Squad [160pts]: 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines . . Additional Wargear: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Legion Vexilla . . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Power Fist + Fast Attack + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers + Heavy Support + Legion Land Raider Battle Squadron [530pts] . . Land Raider Phobos: Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Multi Melta . . Land Raider Phobos: Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Multi Melta Legion Spartan Assault Tank [385pts]: Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade, Flare Shield, Quad Lascannon Sponsons, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [420pts]: Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod . . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Armoured Ceramite, Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Siege Drill, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver + Allegiance + Legiones Astartes: Traitor . . XII: World Eaters: Blood Madness Rite of War: Beserker Assault Khârn, Surlak and Vets in one Land Raider, Butchers in the second, Inductii in Dreadclaws and the big squad in the Spartan. How does it look? I could change which squad goes in which transport, obviously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334074-25k-crimson-path-late-heresy-eaters/#findComment-4777594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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