Gordon Shumway Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I'm not so concerned with the Damon knight rules, more just wondering what the point of the model is now. Just to chaosify our GW Knights? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Renegade Knights not being able to get Daemonic Alignment makes me worry that it's gone totally in the FW book as well (which would make zero sense!). We'll see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Forgeworld made the Chaos Knight just before the Renegade Knight was made IIRC. But both were supposed to basically be the same thing, just that one had FW rules and the other had GW rules. Most likely part of the streamlining into 8th meant the FW version of the rules no longer exist, but if we feel like going ham on a biscuit, FW still sells the better model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogedei Khan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Personally I really hope they make the decimator rules a but more competitive. Such an awesome miniature I've always wanted to get one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just because I'm bored and needed a way to kill my time, these are all the new units we have access to (not including units like the Stormbird and Samus that were available via datasheets):  1.) Hellforged Scorpius 2.) Hellforged Sicaran Venator 3.) Hellforged Deredeo Dreadnought 4.) Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnought 5.) Hellforged Cerberus Heavy Destroyer 6.) Hellforged Falchion 7.) Hellforged Mastodon 8.) Chaos Xiphon Interceptor 9.) Chaos Hellwright 10.) Chaos Hellwright on Dark Abeyant 11.) Plague Toads of Nurgle 12.) Pox Riders of Nurgle 13.) Renegade Knight Acheron 14.) Renegade Knight Lancer 15.) Renegade Knight Castigator 16.) Renegade Knight Atrapos 17.) Renegade Knight Magaera 18.) Renegade Knight Porphyrion 19.) Renegade Knight Styrix 20.) Chaos Warlord Battle Titan  Am I missing any? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Sicaran and Leviathan are at the top of my list. Heres hoping they can slip right into a 1k sons list. ALWAYS wanted to own a leviathan....give me the excuse FW.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karinon Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The only vaguely Khornate unit in that list is a Leviathan. Saves me a bit of cash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4769958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_cauldron Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Exactly what I was dreaming about... Â Yet, farewell Ferrum Infernus Dreadnoughts... You all were great assets and we achieved many victories together... Â Celtic_Cauldron Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I'm curious exactly what they're gonna do with Dreadclaws and Kharybdises. Â For :cuss sake get rid of eating the passenger. I can see them keeping the AoE flame blasts for nearby units/units it moves over, but the 9+" deep strike distance restriction will mean they can't do that on the turn they arrive. I can see Dreadclaws being ~150 points base, given the 103 base cost for loyalist drop pods. Up to 200 is possible with its gear, I'd guess. Up to 400 for the Kharybdis is my guess for that thing, seeing as how you'll be able to deep strike 25 models 9+" away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Shumway Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 So is the hellwright going to be the Drahykavac character? It seems the only one to have the Abeyant to ride around on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 So is the hellwright going to be the Drahykavac character? It seems the only one to have the Abeyant to ride around on. Presumably with conversion in mind Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I'm very sad we didn't get access to Caestus Assault Ram. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Â So is the hellwright going to be the Drahykavac character? It seems the only one to have the Abeyant to ride around on.Presumably with conversion in mind I though the model also came with an alternate head, for a generic rider. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Shumway Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 It comes with two heads. One skull one and a hooded one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 So does this mean that Renegades & Heretics are officially retcon'ed out of all existence now? Â What about our Traitor Guard/full-sized Chaos Cults? :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 So does this mean that Renegades & Heretics are officially retcon'ed out of all existence now? Â What about our Traitor Guard/full-sized Chaos Cults? :( Not at all, they're just in the book with all the other guard units that comes out at the end of the month. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4770885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I would give a lot for some leaks of whether they made the Daemon Lords good and playable for the first time ever! For once I have high hopes now that they moved away from the super heavy system. Just give the Daemon lords a fair price (NOT goofy alignment point costs), good stats, and some cool abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4771051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamIsCollapsing Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I don't really follow GW/FW on Aerial Chaos. Helldrake is now a flying monstruous creatures, aiming at charging across the tabletop (wich is good). BUT they remove hellblade from FW to give a proper aicraft for chaos (and for all of our brother who dont wanna a flying chicken). BUT they add the Chaos Xyphon whiles they try to differenciate Loyal and Chaotic SM BUT Hell talon is still here with a new bundle of 3 Hell talon on FW. I'm confuse, and if they add to remove one of chaos aircraft, while did they choose Hell talon to remain over Hell blade ? Btw the Venator isn't new, chaos space marine could already take it in V7. So does this mean that Renegades & Heretics are officially retcon'ed out of all existence now? What about our Traitor Guard/full-sized Chaos Cults? The little sad thing is, i believed Chaos would be as Genestealer cult : You can take an Astra militarum detachment for each chaos detachment you have, to represent the corrupted guard (as Genestealer cult can do). But seems it's not on the menu. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4771183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Shumway Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 The hell blade is still there. Page 31. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4771194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I don't really follow GW/FW on Aerial Chaos.  Helldrake is now a flying monstruous creatures, aiming at charging across the tabletop (wich is good). BUT they remove hellblade from FW to give a proper aicraft for chaos (and for all of our brother who dont wanna a flying chicken). BUT they add the Chaos Xyphon whiles they try to differenciate Loyal and Chaotic SM BUT Hell talon is still here with a new bundle of 3 Hell talon on FW.  I'm confuse, and if they add to remove one of chaos aircraft, while did they choose Hell talon to remain over Hell blade ?  Btw the Venator isn't new, chaos space marine could already take it in V7.     So does this mean that Renegades & Heretics are officially retcon'ed out of all existence now?  What about our Traitor Guard/full-sized Chaos Cults? :(   The little sad thing is, i believed Chaos would be as Genestealer cult : You can take an Astra militarum detachment for each chaos detachment you have, to represent the corrupted guard (as Genestealer cult can do). But seems it's not on the menu. Cool your jets, brobros.  Read the unit entries again. Hell Blades and Hell Talons are both there.  Renegades are in the FW Astra Militarum book coming soon.    I foresee some awesome times ahead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4771199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I don't see 40K rules for that lovely 1000sons dread they brought out grr!  But still loads more to buy now!  Deredeo !!! come on!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4771700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karinon Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Hell blades are no longer on the FW store. So tough luck if you don't already have one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4772208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Shumway Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I wouldn't be too worried. The dreadclaw is gone too. No way that won't be back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4772221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I wouldn't be too worried. The dreadclaw is gone too. No way that won't be back. dreadclaw is in the new book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4772283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karinon Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Dreadclaw is still available from FW? Not sure what you mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334225-forge-world-index-chaos-is-back-and-better-than-before/page/2/#findComment-4772297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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