Furryblueelf Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I apologize if this has been asked, or if I have just missed the ruling on this in advance. It looks like all vehicles in 8th edition have a degenerating profile as they take wounds/damage. Part of the damage tables on the vehicles lists Attacks. The Chaos Rhino for example goes 3, D3, 1. However no where on the vehicle layout is a hand-to-hand combat of some type. So, what are these attacks? I assumed it would be similar to the rules from the sneak peak of the Spartan, which specifically lists Crushing Tracks, but none of the vehicles I have seen in err 'my friends' book have a profile similar. Colour me confused. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Vehicles make attacks like normal models now. To differentiate them, they get lower WS instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/#findComment-4774549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryblueelf Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thanks Cryptix. I realise they get attacks. But what are they attacking with, and what is the profile of said weapons? None of the Chaos Vehicles has a weapon listed. Relic Spartan at least lists its dirty tracks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/#findComment-4774554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Abaia Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 It's just the vehicle's strength and AP- same as any other unit without a melee weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/#findComment-4774559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 They don't have a weapon listed so there's no modifier to the base close combat stats in the vehicle's stat line. What they are doing though is running people over, ramming, that sort of thing. I believe it's mentioned in the Warhammer Community vehicle article. As for the Spartan, keep in mind that that is a FW datasheet rather than a GW one, so it's more likely to tack on extra stuff. . . thus the "dirty tracks" as a weapon line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/#findComment-4774934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPTIMVSCHRISTVS Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I wonder if embarked characters convey their bonuses to their transport? For instance, would embarking a Dark Apostle in a Spartan let you reroll its melee attacks? If so that could be pretty nasty... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/#findComment-4775256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticTemplar Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I wonder if embarked characters convey their bonuses to their transport? For instance, would embarking a Dark Apostle in a Spartan let you reroll its melee attacks? If so that could be pretty nasty... Not without explicitly stating they do - the transports sidebar in the core rules explicitly says that abilities that effect units within a specific distance have no effect while embarked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334404-vehicle-attacks-in-8th/#findComment-4775283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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