8th Edition: Preemptive FAQ

[Runefyre]

 

Val,

negative modifiers are calculated after your roll to hit. so once you roll, and you check for things like did you roll a 1 (for reroll ones) or reroll misses that's when you would check for negative modifiers. your roll to hit is on the table and there, the modifier doesn't change what the die shows on the table.

The real question though is when is the plasma overheat checked. Let's say you shoot 10 plasma cannon shots after moving with long fangs.you get 6,6,5,4,3,3,2,2,1,1. Reroll triggers now so yiu reroll tge ones and get a 2 and a 3.if plasma is checked now (before modifiers) no one does. But if plasma is checked after modifiers there are three 1s so guys are dying. That's the confusion is plasma wording is not clear in when checked.

 

That's also assuming that there is no difference between a 2 modified to a 1 and a naturally rolled 1.

 

It's all very convoluted right now.

[Wolf Guard Dan]

Frontline Gaming podcasts have it as you reroll before modifiers. And a 2 minus 1 is equal to a naturally rolled 1. Unless I misinterpreted what they said.

 

I don't know if a 1 minus 1 equals 1 or 0 though.

 

Indeed it is pretty convoluted. I think we will get some answers soon.

[Toasterfree]

the modifiers don't change whats on the die, rather the effect what you need to roll on the die to hit. if you need a 3 to hit, but you moved with a heavy weapon, it doesn't change that you rolled a 3, it makes that you needed to roll a 4 to hit.

[CrusherJoe]

It is my understanding it is only the number showing on the die that triggers effects that are triggered by a specific die roll number.

 

In other words, you can't modify yourself into dying from overcharged plasma.

 

The same conversation came about with some smeg heads attempting to say Magnus didn't suffer Perils of the Warp on a natural roll of double ones or double sixes (spoiler alert: he does).

 

Furthermore, this gives some teeth to those -1 modifiers to hit and a tiny bit of buff to those reroll 1s to hit.

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

the modifiers don't change whats on the die, rather the effect what you need to roll on the die to hit. if you need a 3 to hit, but you moved with a heavy weapon, it doesn't change that you rolled a 3, it makes that you needed to roll a 4 to hit.

This is inaccurate. The heavy weapons rule states "you must subtract one from any hit rolls" while conceptually the difference is irrelevant it matters for the purposes of rules based on the actual result.

[Valerian]

There is already a 7 8 page thread on this issue over in the 8e N&R section. Maybe we shouldn't drag all of that over here to the Fang.

[Gemini]

WHAT VALERIAN JUST SAID!

 

except it's up to 8 now...