Imperium of Darkness, SW and Primaris Fluff

[Guest]

If you are talking IG yes this is true.

 

As for primaris they all wear the symbols of the 1st founding, until reassigned. The greyshield would wear first founding with a grey mark over it showing the are not part of the chapter and are part of the grey shields. They act like their stereotypes. Bjarni is loud and loves battle, Kalael is dark and brooding, Felix is all about following orders and such. It is almost so stereotypical it hurts.

[MaveriK]

LMAO somehow I can imagine Grimnar allowing all of this on paper/imperial records, but reading between the lines, giving RG the finger while saying the wolf spear is now the 14th great company... I mean "successor" chapter.

[Lord Blackwood]

I  for one would welcome the stealing of my great company for this idea. 

[Malleuss]

Very carefully following this thread. I'd love hints as to the color this chapter will be using.

[Guest]

This would be their first battle as Ultramarines, led by Felix, an eleventh captain where there should only be ten. They had not even met the Chapter Master. Indeed, Marneus Calgar was ignorant of their assignment to his Chapter, and of their current mission. Felix pondered how Calgar might feel about the primarch’s unilateral altering of the Codex Astartes. The captain could not help but feel that, in his drive for victory and efficiency, Guilliman had been careless with the feelings of his existing sons. Increasingly, Guilliman looked to the Primaris Space Marines as his first solution. He made no attempt to hide the fact that the days of the older Space Marines were numbered.

 

MY THOUGHTS: I knew I was missing a quote, i still think there is others I missed, that helped reinforce the carelessness and end of the old SMs. It also shows that what Guilliman is doing with the Primaris is not known even by the Chapter Masters. I will continue to search for more

[Malleuss]

@calderson that is a very heavy quote. Even the Ultramarines are feeling the sting. Feels like it could open the door wide open for a civil war.

[Grimtooth]

I wonder if the arrival of a second loyalist primarch will be the trigger for a second faction within the Imperium that thinks RG is full of crap.

[Hellrender]

Well it will certainly spice up the Imperium's fluff a bit. The big happy family storyline was getting a bit tedious. Best part of gathering storm, was for me that Inquisitor Greyfax, really didn't like Celestine.. So i welcome more of this :)

 

Calgar vs Guilliman has been a interesting thing to think about i must say. Primarch vs Primarch less so, we have seen that before. But Calgar is a well respected (in universe) space marine commander, and actually quite a bad ass. Guilliman on the other hand is a Primarch. I mean, there isn't much more to say then that as Primarch sums it all up. Calgar is no match, and exactly because of that, it becomes interesting.

[MaveriK]

I'd welcome a civil war, if not a definite rift/divide within the new imperium. Nobody likes a micromanager...

 

It's almost ironic really. The old marines are being treated how the thunder warriors were. Outdated and obsolete. There's a part of me that wants an Iron Priest to be like well why can't those new weapons be used by the old marines? wait let me fix that!

[Lord Ragnarok]

I'd welcome a civil war, if not a definite rift/divide within the new imperium. Nobody likes a micromanager...

 

It's almost ironic really. The old marines are being treated how the thunder warriors were. Outdated and obsolete. There's a part of me that wants an Iron Priest to be like well why can't those new weapons be used by the old marines? wait let me fix that!

 

Quoting myself but still fitting....

 

Not to worry...It's space wolves. The Wolfspear will leave with Codex copies of tactics, strategies, preferred equipment. These pages will be used for blood oaths, spit wads, toilet paper and all the wolf strategies, preferred equipment, and tactics will be memorized, recorded in rich grey-matter in the fires of battle, to be passed to later generations with a cuff to ear, under stern visage or hearty laughter. 

 

[Valerian]

Here's a pretty relevant post on the subject by the author. Thought it was worth the read: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/13/writing-of-dark-imperium/

[MaveriK]

Anybody here do up a SW primaris yet? I'm still waiting on bits to come. I only got the Lt right now, the one without a helm.

[Lord Blackwood]

apparently you  can get the shoulder pads off with a bit of work , and fit the sculpted ones on there , these are pictures from  a Games workshop in New Castle 

 

I think  they look pretty damn good with the shoulderpads / headswaps 

[Frater Cornelius]

There is no question. When it comes to looks, Primaris hit the normals out of the water.

[MaveriK]

There is no question. When it comes to looks, Primaris hit the normals out of the water.

There is no question. When it comes to looks, the normals paved the way for primaris today, and still continue on doing so...

[Grimtooth]

apparently you can get the shoulder pads off with a bit of work , and fit the sculpted ones on there , these are pictures from a Games workshop in New Castle

 

 

I think they look pretty damn good with the shoulderpads / headswaps

Dude in the right looks like he listens to 80's band, Flock of Seagulls.

[Wispy]

That's the rigbt amount of wolf bits for me.

[Guest Triszin]

Now someone put a Wulfen next to them. They are the same scale?

[Wispy]

Now someone put a Wulfen next to them. They are the same scale?

 

pretty much

[Valerian]

Dude in the right looks like he listens to 80's band, Flock of Seagulls.

 

 

True, but I still prefer that one to the wolf-head helmet - always hated how goofy that looks.

[eyeslikethunder]

Removed Edited June 15, 2017 by eyeslikethunder

[Wispy]

I love that helmet..

[Grimtooth]

 

 

 

Dude in the right looks like he listens to 80's band, Flock of Seagulls.

True, but I still prefer that one to the wolf-head helmet - always hated how goofy that looks.

Very much so when compared to the Gamesday priests Wolf helm and Ulric's.

 

After seeing these initial bits swap, I am not too convinced of how well the existing wolf bits will look on the Primaris kits. i would love to see some torsos that had the double headed wolf or runes carved into them like our GH packs or the 30k chests. The Imperial Eagle on them is just too codex generic. Same applies to weapons as well that just look to be standard Imperial design without ever having had the touch of an Iron priest grace them. Granted they are the starter set stuff so options were very limited, but I don't think we can expect for GW to cater to chapter specific Primaris.

[Grimtooth]

Just had another thought;

 

Intercessors and Hellblasters are said to have interchangeable shoulders and heads, but nothing is said of the Gravis versions and nothing is known about the Reivers. Maybe heads might somehow be able to be swapped out, but shoulders are easily out unless the TDA ones can work.

[Bloody Legionnaire]

There is no question. When it comes to looks, Primaris hit the normals out of the water.

I dunno if you count them as "normal Marines" but I still think the MKIV Marines are the best looking ones out there. The only reason Primaris Marines look remotely pleasing to me is they somewhat resemble MKIV.