CrankyOldITGuy Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Curious what everyone thinks of LotD now. With the new deepstrike mechanic and their ignore cover, I think they may be one of the best marine units to drop in with a MM. Not sold on the base model cost though as I think their invuln save is being overvalued. Going to try a pair of 5 man squads each armed with a plasma gun and MM. Still debating the Sargent loadout, but leaning toward plasma pistol and power sword/axe. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 That's what I'm doing :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4777105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilt_imp Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Can the SGT take a combi-weapon? Combi-plasma? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4777134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyOldITGuy Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 AFAIK, no combi-weapons this go around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4777159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The cost a tiny little bit more than a tac squad in a drop pod, but get a 3++ and you can skip the pod. The downside being the very limited weapon options and lack of <Chapter> Synergy. I modeled my sarge with a combi grav and now they can take one. They also aren't fearless anymore for some reason. Maybe once the marine dex drops they'll get expanded on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4777181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sgt Kartr Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 The cost a tiny little bit more than a tac squad in a drop pod, but get a 3++ and you can skip the pod. The downside being the very limited weapon options and lack of <Chapter> Synergy. I modeled my sarge with a combi grav and now they can take one. They also aren't fearless anymore for some reason. Maybe once the marine dex drops they'll get expanded on.I'm not sure how you get LotD being a little more expensive than a Tactical squad in a pod.25 points per Legionnaire is 125 points for 5. 5 Tacticals in a pod costs 170 points! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4778463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I probably skipped a line looking at the pics ha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4778601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 And don't forget to pay for their wargear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4778631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Something to keep in mind is that there are a lot of ways to cause Mortal wounds. If I remember correctly Mortal wounds do not allow saves at all. So don't put too much weight on the 3++ save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4778669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sgt Kartr Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 And don't forget to pay for their wargear.Boltguns, bolt pistols, frag and krak grenades are all 0 points and since that's what Damned and Tactical both come equipped my numbers are accurate. I also factored in the 2 point stormbolter on the drop pod. Supposedly mortal wounds are not super common. Space Marines only get them with Librarians and Scouts and certain characters like Guilliman. So the 3++ should still be pretty good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4779595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I don't know what math I was doing the first time around but two identically equipped 10 strong LotD and Tacs in a pod are the exact same cost(302 points). LotD would get a 3++ but Tacs would benefit from any <Chapter> buffs. And for a few extra points get a grav cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4784521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Didn't buy index 1 because someone said everything would be in the codex, what do legion get? Because it sounds like they still have the ignor cover rule, which is the same as the chapter tactics for imperial fists.... not a bad deal at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4848709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoVonUtopia Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 LotD are not in the codex, only have rules in the index. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4849208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 LotD are not in the codex, only have rules in the index. Yup, that's why I said that I don't have the index... because someone thought they were in the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4849225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Sooo, they are the same after the Codex release ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4849294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Yes but I don't know what they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4849309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wargamer Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 They are Imperial Fist veterans with bolter and storm shield who can teleport and cost a point less than a Terminator. That everything you needed to know? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4849475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 So all other rules they had are gone? If so yes, that's all I needed thanks. Sorry I wasn't trying to sound bitchy, I think my initial post was misunderstood Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4849479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morsla Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Including them in a regular Marine detachment also looks problematic, as they'll prevent your other marines from using their <CHAPTER> bonus. It looks like they'll either need to be in a standalone detachment, or taken in a mixed detachment with other <IMPERIUM> units instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4850060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Killmer Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 But as you can use more than one detatchment anyway that shouldn't be a big issue. From my experience the LotD is a big distraction bait. It's like they draw more attention to them as seems warranted. But hey I would stare at Death if it comes in black power armor decorated with bones and flames, too :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4850087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 So how are people running them now a days as i have had the luck of having some donated to me recently! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334488-8e-legion-of-the-damned/#findComment-4855812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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