Stewie_Mc Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Hi all im currently planning out a kit bash for a librarian i have most bits but want to represent on the model a psychic hood but im struggling what to use to show this has anyone ever used something n particular to represent this. thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_Mc Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Did a little googling and managed to find this neat little trick http://fromthewarp.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/librarian-psychic-hood-conversion.html gonna give it ago Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4778514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 If you can get ahold of one, the power armor back to a Grey Knight has a built in psychic hood that will link up to almost any chest plate front, and if it doesn't direct, takes minimal work to get to glue up correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4778525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 If you can get ahold of one, the power armor back to a Grey Knight has a built in psychic hood that will link up to almost any chest plate front, and if it doesn't direct, takes minimal work to get to glue up correctly. This. Some people like the shoulder pad method, but I think that unless you put a lot of work in it tends to end up looking like what it is: a shoulder pad with bits carved out of it. Grey Knight torso backs are perfect and can usually be found on bits sites/ebay. Better yet, buy the GK box, I've used the bulk of it across my marines (not so much the torsos) and you'll never lack for power swords! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4778562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 If you can get ahold of one, the power armor back to a Grey Knight has a built in psychic hood that will link up to almost any chest plate front, and if it doesn't direct, takes minimal work to get to glue up correctly. This. Some people like the shoulder pad method, but I think that unless you put a lot of work in it tends to end up looking like what it is: a shoulder pad with bits carved out of it. Grey Knight torso backs are perfect and can usually be found on bits sites/ebay. Better yet, buy the GK box, I've used the bulk of it across my marines (not so much the torsos) and you'll never lack for power swords! I agree. The Grey Knight kit is full of bits and will greatly expand a bits box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4778574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 If you can get ahold of one, the power armor back to a Grey Knight has a built in psychic hood that will link up to almost any chest plate front, and if it doesn't direct, takes minimal work to get to glue up correctly. This. Some people like the shoulder pad method, but I think that unless you put a lot of work in it tends to end up looking like what it is: a shoulder pad with bits carved out of it. Grey Knight torso backs are perfect and can usually be found on bits sites/ebay. Better yet, buy the GK box, I've used the bulk of it across my marines (not so much the torsos) and you'll never lack for power swords! All this. I bought one box when it came out, have never built a grey knight, but have used most of the box spread out here and there. A+, would buy again. Think of it like buying a box of 5 librarians :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4779061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 My own issue with using the Grey Knight parts is that aside from the rear half of the torso and some of the shoulderpads, the rest of the components end up looking very Grey Knight. Whilst this is not necessarily a big problem for most people, I prefer for my models to maintain their own Chapters' visuals. That said, the kit does indeed have lots of useful parts that can serve as the basis for your own conversions. :) I should also point out that there is no fixed definition of what the psychic hood actually looks like exactly. The main features are normally cables running from the Librarian's head/helmet to the armour, or to a hood around or behind the the model's head. If you look at the various official Librarian models, you will see quite a few different examples that have been sculpted over the years, including some that are more like a collar that wraps around the back of the head with cables running from the ear positions down across the chest and back under the arms. As this topic came up a little while ago, you may find it helpful to look through for some ideas. Another suggestion I've made before was to use an actual robed hood. The Dark Angels Veterans sprue has a number of helmet and bare heads with hoods, and there's normally a couple more to be found on most other plastic Dark Angels kits. There's also a robed head in the Deathwatch Veterans sprue. Even just used as-is with no further cabling, a robed head ties in well the tabards and/or robes many Librarian models have on them, and so serves to indicate the wargear neatly enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4780346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 My own issue with using the Grey Knight parts is that aside from the rear half of the torso and some of the shoulderpads, the rest of the components end up looking very Grey Knight. Whilst this is not necessarily a big problem for most people, I prefer for my models to maintain their own Chapters' visuals. That said, the kit does indeed have lots of useful parts that can serve as the basis for your own conversions. I'd contest that, Major. The legs are pretty generic Mk. VI with only a couple having covert yet very easily removable bits of iconography. The right arms are bog standard mk.7, as are the left once you cut off the storm bolters (trimmed down they can actually make very good mounting points for combat or storm shields). The heads are variant crusader helms and barely any of the accessories are GK specific. It all depends how many of the recognisable parts you use together and whether you've done anything to make them look less recognisable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4780647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Fair enough - although, I did point out that it was my own issue with the GK parts. I expressly got a box of them for this very purpose a little while back, so I felt it was worth providing my thoughts on why I used less of the kit than I'd planned. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4780681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verger Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I support the GreyKnight back\torso. Personally, I think that using any of the sternguard legs will nicely complete the look with minimal hassle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4780723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
old git Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 One box of Grey Knights has provided me with power swords for years, plus my librarius conclave (as was) are derived heavily from Grey Knight bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4781345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_Mc Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Which box of gray knights are you guys buying, had a little look on gw and they have strike, purgation,interceptor and purifier squads all coming with 5 models and the strike also available in a 10 model squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4782402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Which box of gray knights are you guys buying, had a little look on gw and they have strike, purgation,interceptor and purifier squads all coming with 5 models and the strike also available in a 10 model squad? They all come from the same sprues, they're just slightly different load outs and paint schemes (I really wish GW wouldn't do this on their site as it can get a bit confusing; see the SM assault squad which also has 3 entries despite all being from the same box and just having cosmetic differences). The squad of 10 is literally just double the sprues in a slightly bigger box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4782606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 There are only two plastic GK troops kits; the power armoured kit that makes all the different PA squads, and the terminator armoured kit that makes all the different terminator squads. Each kit builds five models, so any deals that offer more than this are just multiples of those two kits. Hope that helps. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4782816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_Mc Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yes thanks both clears it up, il likely pick up a 5 man squad my attempts at cutting a shoulder pad were disastrous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4782884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Really, if you only need a couple of parts, I would be tempted to ask a friendly GK player if they have any spares they could let you have/trade, or if not maybe hit up a bitz site (or eBay). My thinking is that if you just want a torso and maybe one weapon, it seems a bit excessive to buy a whole kit. That said, the two GK kits are very nice sets, and if you think that you'll want to use the rest of them eventually, then go for it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4782946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie_Mc Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Really, if you only need a couple of parts, I would be tempted to ask a friendly GK player if they have any spares they could let you have/trade, or if not maybe hit up a bitz site (or eBay). My thinking is that if you just want a torso and maybe one weapon, it seems a bit excessive to buy a whole kit. That said, the two GK kits are very nice sets, and if you think that you'll want to use the rest of them eventually, then go for it. well i have found a seller use on ebay for bits and very reasonably priced gonna gve that ago. cheers all for the advice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334531-psychic-hood-representation/#findComment-4783107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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