The Unseen Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Was just skimming through the Space Wolf stuff, I don't normally play them, but two of my common opponents do, and I theorycraft, and I cannot find anything on how many pts a Wolf Guard Pack Leader costs, unless you put them in terminator armor, then their 31 pts. But how much is the standard power armor one? They have a cost of +2 when you use power points, but they don't seem to exist in the back with the points values. Am I just blind or are they missing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 their points are whatever that units points are. So BC are 13 and a WGPL attached to BC are 13. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yep, WGPL are just considered another model in the "points per model" calculation, unless they are in TDA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Wulfen Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Actually I think they are worth 16 points the same amount as wolf guards hence why tda wolf guard pl are 31 same as tda wolf guard. Just was an oversight when they made the indexes. Just like the wording for terminators taking up 3 model slots instead of just two. So I would tell your friends to make them 16 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Actually I think they are worth 16 points the same amount as wolf guards hence why tda wolf guard pl are 31 same as tda wolf guard. Just was an oversight when they made the indexes. Just like the wording for terminators taking up 3 model slots instead of just two. So I would tell your friends to make them 16 points. That's what I assumed at first, but it's the way already explained above. They cost the same as any other model in the unit. This was confirmed by the playtesters, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 No it was actually confirmed to be the same as the squad base by Frankie and reecius, not sure whicgvthreaf here had tgat though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusherJoe Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So it's the consensus of the ITC TO group (which includes 8th ed playtesters, and others in contact with GW about such things) that you pay for another BC (13 points) and the upgrade to WGPL is free (this is apparently what GW intended). As there are no points for it in the unit list, it's a free upgrade. So, you can legally run a BC pack consisting of 4 BC, 1 BCPL and 1 WGPL for 13 points each plus wargear. Neat! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nharvey89 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So it's the consensus of the ITC TO group (which includes 8th ed playtesters, and others in contact with GW about such things) that you pay for another BC (13 points) and the upgrade to WGPL is free (this is apparently what GW intended). As there are no points for it in the unit list, it's a free upgrade. So, you can legally run a BC pack consisting of 4 BC, 1 BCPL and 1 WGPL for 13 points each plus wargear. Neat! With regards to upgrading to wgpl and not taking it additionally, has this been confirmed? I hoped it would be this case as it makes more sense with regards to what I own. Last I saw people where saying it was additional, though that was a little while ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusherJoe Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It's as confirmed as it can get barring a contradictory official response from the GW team. It's why there's no listing for them in the unit points cost section of the Index. The only Wolf Guard Pack Leader upgrade you pay additional points for is the one in Terminator armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4782857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I can tickle the rules writer and see if I can get some confirmation Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334680-wolf-guard-pack-leaders-points-missing/#findComment-4783009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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