micahwc Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/Z6iIe39.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UNvexu1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4838472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Lots of firepower right there. Are they going to be chosen or are there lots more sons of Alpharius in the pipeline? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4838499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 I think these will be chosen, and there will be about 4 squads of matching Havoks with missile launchers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4838506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 List version 2.0, Spearhead Detachment (+1 command point), 2,000 points. HQ Chaos Lord, plasma pistol, power axe (helps the havoks hit and provides counter charge) Chaos Sorceror, plasma (provides prescience and counter charge) Elite 5x Chosen, 4x plasma guns 5x Chosen, 4x plasma guns Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-flamer Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-flamer Troops 25x chaos cultists, autoguns (bubble wrap/objective holding, etc) 22x chaos cultists, autoguns (as above) Heavy Support 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers Hellforged scorpius, scorpius launcher, combi-bolter, combi-flamer Hellforged scorpius, scorpius launcher, combi-bolter, combi-flamer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4839398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Am considering dropping the chaos cultists and adding a second detachment of Renegade Cultists instead. I can run 2 malefic lords and 35 renegade cultists as a battalion for another command point, or run 41 renegade cultists with a malefic lord as a company. The malefic lord seems like a good way to get some extra psychic powers in. Also an edit to the list, the chosen have a power axe and plasma pistol on the sergeant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4839571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 All my missile launchers arrived today but I'll be out of town all weekend so I won't get any progress done until Monday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4843699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 I felt like my plague lord needed a better base. I didn't like how he was standing on a nurgling so I changed it up a bit. http://i.imgur.com/riWSstx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7RHk2g6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZjmYelJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hqQf1OF.jpg Poor Death Company marine is struggling to raise his bolter. His leg has been severed and he has a nasty axe cut across his chest. Soon he will find the death he has yearned for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4848434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Came back from a wedding and $30 of missile launchers are missing. So I went with lascannons instead since I had some on hand. I took hands from bolters and added them to anvil industries lascannons http://i.imgur.com/yNBVV3j.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4850724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Those guns look a bit small for lascannons though I imagine you're saving some cash by buying third party bits. Shame about the missiles missing, they seem pretty solid now in 8th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4850933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Stayed home sick today and did a lot of work. Here are all my heavy weapon dudes. http://i.imgur.com/0d5NHkE.jpg 6 lascanons, 6 heavy bolters, and 2 missile launchers. A chaos sorcerer with force sword and plasma pistol http://i.imgur.com/VtUf6CD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VvUcB5o.jpg And a dark apostle http://i.imgur.com/DL1RNzH.jpg Supposed to be a power maul I know but I figured a counts as power maul power spear with some heretical scripture hanging off it would work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4850936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Those marines look suspiciously like loyalists. ;p Where did you get the earthshaker guns from? Been looking for a decently priced alternative model for my R&H force for a long time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4850963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 http://www.toysoldiersdepot.com/store.php/thedustyloft/pd4892326/marx_recast_wwii_grey_plastic_german_88mm_cannon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4850980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 https://www.hobbybunker.com/products/marx-german-88mm-gun-gray-3-pieces-13245 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4850993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Thanks man that is quite a good price! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4851001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Those guns look a bit small for lascannons though I imagine you're saving some cash by buying third party bits. Shame about the missiles missing, they seem pretty solid now in 8th. I agree, they look more like Astartes versions of an imperial Lasgun instead of a proper Lascannon. ^^ Lord Asvaldir and micahwc 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4851333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hmm. May have to rethink the lascannons since they are smaller than the heavy bolters. I have looked everywhere (I even cleaned my craft area) for the damn missile launchers and can't find them, I must concede them lost to the warp. My wife was the only person home while I was gone and she swears she didn't do anything to them..... I think she worships the corpse emperor in secret. Really annoying, it was 16 astarte missile launchers with arms at about $2 a piece. I'm thinking of dropping the Scorpius' just because they don't benefit from any of the special legion rules and hellbrutes/dreadnaughts do. They seem pretty good on paper, but they are also really expensive for what they provide. Thoughts? I don't really wan't to only bring 1, as without other armor on the table I'm sure 1 won't survive very long. As an aside, I think it's really cool that as they get damaged and get worse at shooting, they get better at melee combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 I shaved the imperial emblems off the sorcerer and the dark apostle, and added capes, cause any good villain needs a cape. Worked on my plague drone's paint a bit and based it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just placed an order from Hoardobits, got 6 sets of Dark Angel weapons. Each set includes 1 missile launcher, multiple plasma pistols of both right and left handed variety, a few power swords and chainswords, and a few bolters. Each set was about $2. So when all is said and done I will have 8 missile launchers, and 6 heavy bolters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Newest version of my list is as follows. It's two detachments. 1 of Alpha Legion, and one of Renegades and Heretics. Battalion Detachment, +3 command points, Alpha Legion HQ Sorcerer, plasma pistol, force sword Dark Apostle, plasma pistol, power maul Troops 30 chaos marines with 6 heavy bolters, either 5x6 or 3x10. Heavy Support 5 Havoks, 4 missile launchers 5 Havoks, 4 missile launchers Elites 5 chosen, 4 plasma guns 5 chosen, 4 plasma guns Spearhead Detachment, +1 command point, Renegades and Heretics HQ Malefic LordHeavy Support Earthshaker Carriage, 4 crew Earthshaker Carriage, 4 crew Earthshaker Carriage, 4 crew In total this gives me 7 command points, and is a hair over 1500 points. Still need to figure out what to do with the rest of my points, although bringing both Scorpius' in the battalion detachment would put me close to 2,000. I'm very tempted to add 40 cultists to the battalion and use their Alpha Legion strategem to infiltrate them 9" away from the enemy line before the first turn of the game. Just as a distraction this sounds fun to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Just found out today that there is a local tournament on the 21st of August. 1,500 points, battle forged, 3 detachments max, Forgeworld is allowed as long as you bring a copy of the rulebook. Extra points for a 3 color paint scheme on everything, and extra points for everything being based thematically. Even more points if you bring a display board. Trying to come up with a list. I'm thinking about a battalion detachment of chaos marines and chosen, and a spearhead detachment of havoks and scorpius tanks. Need to come up with a list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Tentative tournament list made from models I own or will own by the 21st of August. 3 detachments, 8 command points total Detachment 1, battalion detachment, Keyword: Alpha Legion 415 points HQ Sorcerer, plasma pistol, force sword Dark Apostle, plasma pistol, power maul Troops 5 chaos space marines, 1 Heavy Bolter 5 chaos space marines, 1 Heavy Bolter 5 chaos space marines, 1 Heavy Bolter Detachment 2, Spearhead detachment, 686 points HQ Chaos Lord, plasma pistol, power axeHeavy Support 5x Havoks with 4 missile launchers 5x Havoks with 4 missile launchers 5x Havoks with 4 Lascannons Detachment 3, Vanguard Detatchment, 482 points HQ Chaos Lord, Plasma Pistol, Power AxeElite 5 Chosen, 4x Plasma 5 Chosen, 4x Plasma 5 Chosen, 4x Plasma Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Why so many separate detachments? You could just drop a lord and take a battalion detachment. Also I like the R&H detachment you made, simple detachment of a cheap malific lord plus artillery seems like an excellent edition to a lot of csm lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 3 detachments for the extra command points. My renegades/heretics are not official models so I don't want to bring them for a tournament. Just because I don't know them well, I've only played there once. I'd go for a brigade if I had fast attack choices but that's where I'm currently lacking. I really want to bring a scorpius or two but the pair are over 400 points and that's kind of steep for a 1500 point game. Although the 6d3 st 6 2 damage attacks per turn each without LOS is nice. The pair can kill 5 terminators a turn on average. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 You could always ask the tourney organizer if 3rd party models are allowed- unless it is being held at a GW, at which case I wouldn't bother. Unfortunate that you can't use the new Alpha Legion stratagem and infiltrate your plasma closer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 New list idea, keeping the scorpius' home for now. Just a battalion detachment this time, but I added Icons to just about everything. Last time I went was a tournament and almost everyone had Imperium armies, so I've thrown an Icon of Excess on just about everything that can take it for the 5+ DttFE. Seriously, last time there was 1 Tyranid player and everything else was some form of Imperial. HQ: These guys are mostly to help everything shoot better via prescience and the Lord's reroll 1 ability. Sorcerer Lord Elite: 5 chosen, 4 plasma, Icon of Excess 5 chosen, 4 plasma, Icon of Excess Troops 10 chaos marines, 2 heavy bolters, Icon of Excess 10 chaos marines, 2 heavy bolters, Icon of Excess 10 chaos marines, 2 heavy bolters, Icon of Excess Heavy Support 5 Havoks, 4 missile launchers, Icon of Excess 5 Havoks, 4 missile launchers, Icon of Excess 5 Havoks, 4 Lascannons, Icon of Excess Cant wait for the codex to drop so I can infiltrate the plasma and shoot the lascannons twice per turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335376-starting-a-second-army-deathguard-and-chaos/page/2/#findComment-4852499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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