Ciler Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Grimaldus is expensive though. 120 pts where a regular chaplain is ~85 pts (same statline), that's a hefty price for the special ability. That's relatively cheap for a Chaplain with his stats and the capability to add +1 attack to every roll of 6 for UNITS around him... It's the same stats as any other chaplain, actually. That's my point : an extra 40 points for a 1/6 chance to hit once more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335676-helbrecht-in-8th-crusade-of-wrath/page/3/#findComment-4802836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 33 points if you get his plasma pistol into account. It's not a bad buff, but it's something that you either want and build a list with that in mind, or you're better off with a generic chaplain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335676-helbrecht-in-8th-crusade-of-wrath/page/3/#findComment-4802858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Curious to know if you guys have played a game with Grimaldus? I have played a fair few now and can tell you his buff is great. It's simply not true he's only worthwhile in black tide armies, I run him in a land raider with 2 crusader squads, Cenobytes, Emperors Champion and Apothecary - even with just 15 other models in melee the amount of extra attacks you can put out is fantastic. Don't forget you can get additional 6s on the Chaplain reroll to hit, and you then reroll the additional attacks. Can very easily turn 20 attacks into 30 all rerolling to hit. Absolute steal for 33pts more than a regular chaplain IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335676-helbrecht-in-8th-crusade-of-wrath/page/3/#findComment-4803176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 So if you have 30 attacks(15 guys with chainswords) then you after re-rolls and Grim's buff, you are going to get an average of 32.88 hits. Compare that to 26.4 without the buff which is a 20% increase. I think it's a solid upgrade from a regular chaplain for 33 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335676-helbrecht-in-8th-crusade-of-wrath/page/3/#findComment-4803209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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