Irbis Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads/ENG_Primaris_Marines_Release_01_July_1st.pdf Am I reading this right? So the reason DW didn't get the option to take starter minis was the fact you can't easily place DW pad on them? Edited July 9, 2017 by Irbis Overlordgaz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyadventurer Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Well, they do like being weird and strict, thinking that we can't shave down an existing shoulder pad or anything. But shut up about that. Mastercraft stalker?! Stalker on a character?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Hahahahaha. I have a feeling no one knows what they are doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 The reason about some models are or not in DW is just because that stupid DW shoulderpad issue cause GW thinks that Timmy boy is silly enough to not be able to swap a shoulder pad on His minis :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Whaaat?GW, you got some splaining to do.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster damion Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I have a feeling that when the multiparts come we'll get the other Primaris stuff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 . I have a feeling no one knows what they are doing. There is precedent for this, though. IIRC, there are two models of librarian (or was that chaplain?), one chapter specific one and one generic. Guess which one DW is allowed to take - hint, it's the one that has separate pad, despite all the unique bling on him. Two interesting things here. This librarian costs the same as regular one - if he has boosted primaris statline, all MEQ librarians were just made obsolete in a single strike... Second, look at what was needed for DW to take these two. Explicit permission amending DW table - so, sadly, all arguments DW can take FW stuff are now officially dead until FAQ. shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Is that really the case? I don't know. That may not be their intention to begin with. I mean, despite how strong Primaris guys are, they are still not as experienced as their previous generation counterparts. The time has passed and now slowly but surely we will have a couple of Primaris boys to work with. @Irbis Considering the stuff I really want to have from ForgeWorld, which is the Fellblade, I am not worried about it at all. I can understand why the Deathwatch would not be given the same luxury of wargear compared to the standard Chapters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I am not worried about it at all. I can understand why the Deathwatch would not be given the same luxury of wargear compared to the standard Chapters. The sarcasm is real. I jumped on Deathwatch when they rolled out. Laughed and cried at the amount I spent on them and the haphazard way GW handled the elite of the elite. Gave away most of it. I still have no idea what I'm going to do with this collector's edition that I have not opened yet with obsolete rules in it. I wouldn't have minded if they had corrected their mistake in 8th. But they again seem like over costed marines and marines are already in trouble in a lot of areas. Bleh... Really wish they had actually been the elites they are described as being in the books. CrimsonReign 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I am not worried about it at all. I can understand why the Deathwatch would not be given the same luxury of wargear compared to the standard Chapters. The sarcasm is real. I jumped on Deathwatch when they rolled out. Laughed and cried at the amount I spent on them and the haphazard way GW handled the elite of the elite. Gave away most of it. I still have no idea what I'm going to do with this collector's edition that I have not opened yet with obsolete rules in it. I wouldn't have minded if they had corrected their mistake in 8th. But they again seem like over costed marines and marines are already in trouble in a lot of areas. Bleh... Really wish they had actually been the elites they are described as being in the books. But I am serious. :) The Deathwatch aren't a major scale army. They are basically black ops/hunters. I can always get around that by making the Primaris guys as a custom chapter that operates alongside the Deathwatch as a brand new force. They won't have the Special Issue Ammo, but what they do have is still good enough for me to include them in a separate detachment anyway. I saw potential in what they had in 7th. The rules just work against them since their BSSF was built around getting one extra Mission Tactic and the ability to Deep Strike, not that it'll benefit them at all as they were basically sitting ducks for one turn. For what it's worth, I thought they did alright as they are now. I never expected them to be the new OP, but I have gotten good results with them. Fights with them are no longer one-sided against me. The hardest trick with them is to think long-term with them and to make every single move with them count because they got the options, but not the survivability. And I intend to unlock that potential. :) mjrwaud 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostick Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Don't worry, they'll find a way to mess wit us still. Knowing GW, they'll give them jet packs and bikes, but won't let DW Primaris take them, so they're essentially useless footsloggers no one would ever take anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4804903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 By the way - does DW have even one vehicle capable of transporting them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4805041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 None at the moment, unless we count the future transport. I'll bide my time. Otherwise, fielding him as a generic Librarian is another option available to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4805185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 If they get access to everything in the Forgeworld book - that includes the Mastodon and the Stormbird, both of which which can take Primaris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4805322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) If they get access to everything in the Forgeworld book - that includes the Mastodon and the Stormbird, both of which which can take Primaris. Nice, now to just find that 500 bucks I left lying around . . . Update: Mastodon cannot carry Primaris. Dunno where this rumour started . . . Edited July 6, 2017 by Vel'Cona Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4808907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabre Slanneshi Prince Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The MC Stalker Bolt Rifle is a little disappointing at Heavy 1, but I think I might add one to my Deathwatch if they don't errata MC Boltguns to have SIA first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4809097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lvn-da-dream Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 As I read the Index:Imperium 1; the Corvus Blackstar says it can transport 12 Deathwatch infantry. Nothing is mentioned to limit Primaris marines. Is that how I can transport my librarian or am I missing something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4811056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronze Beast in the Dark Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) From the recently released FAQ: Page 177 – Corvus Blackstar, Transport Add the following sentence: ‘It cannot transport Primaris models.’ Edited July 7, 2017 by Ashriel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4811073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lvn-da-dream Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Missed that one. Thanks. I guess my squad/librarian will be wading into a hail of enemy fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4811088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I keep forgetting which one can and which one can't. Thunderhawk specifically can, Stormbird can, unless the FAQ states otherwise- it doesn't mention Primaris in its list.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4811388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I guess my squad/librarian will be wading into a hail of enemy fire. Or you can deploy an incredibly cost-effective meathshield of Veterans w/ SS! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4811446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 So, guess who joined DW: https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Primaris_Marines_Release_02_July_8th.pdf So, yeah, DW couldn't take primaris before because of shoulder pads. Raise hands if you're surprised by this shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4813276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius0288 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I wanna know what that heavy bolt pistol is gonna do! Am I gonna get like "pistol 2" or maybe 2 damage at -1 AP? Either way, looking like decent cheap troop choice to get more bodies in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4813426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurgleprobe Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Are reivers confirmed as a troop choise? Will indeed be fun to see what those pistols can do! Also, I think this is my first post. Hey everybody. :) Vel'Cona 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4813567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius0288 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I mean, I don't know what kind of troop they are (elite, fast attack, troop) but yes they will be available to DW as a unit choice. Welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335942-primaris-captain-and-librarian-in-dw-now-reivers-too/#findComment-4813579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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