Chapter Master Valrak Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just a quick one, should these chaps have their helmets blue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 We just don't know yet :( A few peeps have been doing it that way, and as they are Heavy Support marines it makes sense. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4816697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelus_Raphael Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 According to the DI book and the mini-index then yes and your inceptors should have yellow helmets. Chapter Master Valrak and Charlo 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4816698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 yeah, the primaris mini dex says the helmet colour is based on battlefield role. So hellblasters are support and get blue, intercessors are battleline so get red and inceptors are assault so get yellow (exact name of roles may be off). Oh and veterans get gold, which PROBABLY means sergeants should have gold, but I personally have stuck with blue/red/yellow for sergeants and kept gold for lieutenants. Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4816739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malios Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 On a similar note, would this also apply to successor chapters like the Angels Encarmine? Or are the helmet colours purely just the Blood Angels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4816778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 the note is blood angels, i believe that'd depend on existing lore, some BA successors follow codex markings, some follow BA markings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4816783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 According to the DI book and the mini-index then yes and your inceptors should have yellow helmets. What this guy said ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4817501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 yeah, the primaris mini dex says the helmet colour is based on battlefield role. So hellblasters are support and get blue, intercessors are battleline so get red and inceptors are assault so get yellow (exact name of roles may be off). Oh and veterans get gold, which PROBABLY means sergeants should have gold, but I personally have stuck with blue/red/yellow for sergeants and kept gold for lieutenants. I've always played that veteran units get gold helms, same for the members of the command squad ... but a veteran sergeant in a tactical squad I still give a red helm. But then I always give them a shoulder pad on the right arm that has the crux terminanus symbol on it to represent their veteran status. Lucumon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4817504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucumon Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I thought veteran sergeants got black shoulder pads with red trim. On the right side, the blood angels symbol is in yellow instead of black. Or am I still stuck in 2nd edition? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 That is still the case. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I think it best to ignore their position in the FOC and decide based on their role. Reivers are elites but clearly assault troops and not veterans. That said...Hellblasters are tough. I personally consider them a subset of tactical marine and go red, but I totally see the Devestator side of the argument. Also I run a DIY successor Chapter so it's easier for me to be flexible. There are still those gravis guys with the rocket shoulders rumored to be out there, so that makes the choice even trickier for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Blue helmets look nice though! Edited July 13, 2017 by Blindhamster LutherMax, Sawtooth, Aothaine and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Blindhamster, I believe you have discovered the best possible way to make a decision on helmet color. Whatever you think looks coolest :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelus_Raphael Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Blindhamster, I believe you have discovered the best possible way to make a decision on helmet color. Whatever you think looks coolest Can't beat the rule of cool. Now if I could just convince GW that BA shoulder pads should still have black trim... Karhedron and tkni 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Nooooooooooooooooo!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 3rd company retain black trim officially to this day, its related to Tycho now.The rest have red trim Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Nooooooooooooooooo!!!! Aothaine and LutherMax 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelus_Raphael Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 3rd company retain black trim officially to this day, its related to Tycho now. The rest have red trim I missed that one... when did that happen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 So in regards to black trim, I actually have a special thing going. Not cannon but something to consider. My basic army is set up as 6th company. It is a reserve company so I paint their shoulder pad trim black (actually due to 3rd edition black trim syndrome) to denote they are not a battle company. Semi-recently, I painted up a squad of Meltacide assault marines without trim. This is because I already have 2 full assault marines squads for the 6th company. So the extra meltacide squads are from the 2nd company which did not receive black trim due to them being from a battle company instead of the reserve company. The other weird thing I do is that instead of painting helmets on my 6th company marines, I put a stripe to indicate that they are essentially tactical marines who strap on equipment when they need to fill a role. This is totally something I came up with but I justify it as the reserve companies are essentially tactical squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 One of the justifications I heard ages ago is that black trim is the 'on parade' scheme - but gets left off for combat units, as simpler to maintain in the field. Which would fit nicely into putting it on reserve companies. I'm tempted to put it on the 'new boys' primaris though with their factory fresh gear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 One of the justifications I heard ages ago is that black trim is the 'on parade' scheme - but gets left off for combat units, as simpler to maintain in the field. Which would fit nicely into putting it on reserve companies. I'm tempted to put it on the 'new boys' primaris though with their factory fresh gear. It helps break up the red a bit so I can get behind that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 My Blood Angels have black trim on their pauldrons since some of them date back to 2nd edition and I am not repainting my army just to keep up with GW's fads. As far as I am concerned, my army is right and it is GW that is getting it wrong. My Primaris Marines are also getting black trim. sockwithaticket 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4818969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I think it best to ignore their position in the FOC and decide based on their role. Reivers are elites but clearly assault troops and not veterans. That said...Hellblasters are tough. I personally consider them a subset of tactical marine and go red, but I totally see the Devestator side of the argument. Also I run a DIY successor Chapter so it's easier for me to be flexible. There are still those gravis guys with the rocket shoulders rumored to be out there, so that makes the choice even trickier for me. I want to say that GW has hellblasters in blue helmets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4819019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Never mind XD already said by someone else XD Edited July 14, 2017 by Arkangilos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4819023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Nooooooooooooooooo!!!! Always wanted to quote someone that was quoting themselves! Also, I think they would follow the codex rules as they were with Gullyweed during that whole crusade. I think more chapter specific rules would slowly start to take over as the primaris started to spend more time with their older brothers from their chapter but I imagine there might even be a little chaffing from it. Gullyweed wouldn't know about all the special things that all the different chapters do. I imagine that most chapters are accepting the Primaris with a grain of salt. They really need the reinforcements but view them kind of like outsiders initially. My Primaris Flesh Tearers are going to adopt the Black helmets on the normal troops and will use the helmet colors for heavy/veteran/assault elsewhere but are also going to be mainly ranged focused which goes against a lot of what the Flesh Tearers are. But the Primaris have not been around the Flesh Tearers much yet and would not have that hunger for blood yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336527-hellblasters/#findComment-4819479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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