Everon Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 So my first game of 8th edition I had the other day was a 100 PL game. was meant to be a quick and friendly game. Total time was about 2 hours with lots of rule flipping for me. But it was my GK vs an Ultramarine "Gulliman Bunker". No idea what it was until I saw the reroll all hits and wounds and the ultras had so much dakka. Game was No Mercy My list was a Vanguard and the fast attack (cant remember name and dont have books with me) detachments HQ : -Kaldor Draigo -GM halbred Elite : -Doomglaive Dread -Paladin Ancient -5 man Paladin Squad all falchions, paragon had a hammer Heavy : -NDK had fists with heavy incenerator and heavy pyscannon Fast : -4x 5 man Interceptor Squads had falchions Ultramarines : HQ : -Robute Gulliman Troops : -3x 10 man Tactical Squads armed with heavy bolters and plasmas Elite : -2x Venerable Dreads armed with storm bolters and asscannons Heavy : - Predator with all Lascannons and sgt chronus Transport : -2x Razor backs with Twin Assault Cannons Flight : -Storm Raven with Twin Heavy bolter, Twin Assault Cannon and 2 Hurricane Bolters R1 GK turn Opponent let me go first just because he felt his list was super cheesey and not quite fair. All units shunt, deep strike, Gate of Infinity within 9". Pysker phase killed 7 tacticals. Shooting phase crippled all 3 squads and put 3 wounds on one of the Venerables. Melee killed a single tactical and put 1 wound on a razor back. Only 2 squads successful charged and over watch killed 4 interceptors. Morale phase kills off one of the tactical squads. First blood and 1 point for me. UM Turn Shooting, the NDK takes no wounds from the pred, and razor . 2 interceptor squads wiped by the, remaining tacticals, the other venerable, gulliman and Storm Raven. 3 Paladins are also lost to the raven. In melee the venerable charges and dies, blowing up and killing one more paladin. The other Venerable charges the interceptors battling the razor and wipes them all. Gulliman charges and kills last of interceptors. At this point, I've lost all but 1 paladin and all 4 squads of intercptors, so I'm at about half power left. 4 points to UM R2 GK turn, Pysker phase all remaining tactical squads are killed and 2 wounds to RG, shooting takes gulliman from 9 wounds down to 3. Melee the GM and DGD charge gulliman. The glaive massively over kills Gulliman alone. The lone paladin and NDK take the pred down to 1 wound left. Ancient and dragio failed to charge. End of turn, Gulliman fails to rise, oppoenent uses reroll and fails again. 4 more points for me + slay the wl. current score, 6-4 UM had clause if i could kill RG I would auto win, but I insisted we continue to see how the list plays out. UM Turn. Shooting, storm Raven kills the grand master with a Razor back. 2nd Razor and 2nd venerable fail to wound draigo. Melee, the venerable charges DGD and wipes him out. NDK and paladin wipe out Predator. Score 7-5 R3 GK turn, Pysker phase and shooting wound storm raven, kill chronus, and wound razor back. Melee, I cripple the venerable with the NDK, and the razor with Draigo. Ancient keeps failing to charge but can stay within bonus range. UM turn, razor and ven disengage. Shooting from all remaining units brings draigo to 1 wound left. Score 8-5 R4 GK, Smite kills the venerable, shooting does nothing basically. Melee, the paladin and NDK take the raven to 1 wound, Draigo kills the first Razorback finally. At this point, UM retires. He has nothing left that can stop my units. Final score, 10-5 My take on this. NDK has taken a total of 2 wounds despite having razors dreads and storm ravens unloading on him multiple times. Hes a beast of a tank but his damage out put, not so good. if he hit on 2s, he would have been better. Shooting was useless on him though. DoomGlaive Dread had better shooting and good melee output, but couldn't tank the wounds as well. Draigo and GM covering all units for rerolls / reroll 1s helped massively with shooting all them storm bolters. Paladins barely did anything, but opponent saw them as a priority target, so I guess they did their job? Draigo is just even more killy then ever. 'Nough said. Purge Soul did a total of 3 wounds. Smite did about 25... I see why we have the nerfed smite and can understand it completely. It was my second most effective weapon, storm bolters being the most effective until all he had left were vehicles. I would say at this point just experimenting and using theories for play style and list, I would say we were in a good place. To survive that much waves of ammo with reroll to wound and hits for basically every single unit he had (only 1 tactical squad and 1 razor were out of Gullimans range) and being outnumbered and out shot to still essentially wipe them off the table and i had 0 cover, just had to charge straight in, I would say GK are in a decent place for combat. Now when it comes to objectives, I'm interested to see, but interceptor will be a key while you have a main force to try and lock in the opponent. Aothaine, SyNidus, Myunch and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The GK Alpha strike is now a thing of beauty. I love it. Everon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4818532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The GK Alpha strike is now a thing of beauty. I love it. Agree wholeheartedly! It truely feels like an "insertion" army that can hit hard early. I love the feel right now even with the "lack of flavor". It can only get better from here! =D Everon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4818550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Aside from the UM troops I think that's a fairly solid list you beat. I kept saying Smite is absolutely viscous especially in a fast army. Once Guilliman is down, it really is cruise control for you. I really like Draigo too. As much as I want to use Voldus I can't get past what a beast Draigo is and an HQ to boot. Gratz on the win! Everon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4819244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soots Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I played against a list similar to the one you played again. Squeaked out a win. Guilliman is a real pain when he is surrounded by all his units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4829490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yes he is, but if you can get in his face and clear a path for a multi charge, he doesn't stand a chance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4830164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Thank you for that report! I don't think I've seen a report yet where the GK get crushed. They are looking like a really decent army to play as in 8th ed. Great job on securing that victory! Always sweet when your opponent comes in with that strong list and you end up shutting it down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4833540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It seems that the Draigo "Shunt Punch" list lives on as the "Drop Pop" list. GG SJ Frater Cornelius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336618-8th-ed-first-battle-pure-gk-vs-um/#findComment-4837587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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