R_F_D Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 My bad, thanks for finding the quote! Also, love that the idea is based on Ravenor's works! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4896155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 There is a great quote from Mkoll in Armour of Contempt (I think) about Mkvenner's interpretation about Chaos which I think is something along those lines.It’s Gaunt himself who makes that recollection: “Mkvenner, one of my original team, had a notion. He reckoned Chaos didn’t destroy us. It didn’t taint and infect like a disease. It didn’t work like that at all, which is why there could be no cure.’ ‘He believed in force of will, I presume,’ said Welt. ‘Precisely. Chaos isn’t evil. It simply unlocks and lets out our propensities for evil and desecration. That is why it is so pernicious. It brings out our flaws. Force of will, determination, loyalty… these are the qualities that combat Chaos taint. If a man can remain true to the Throne, Chaos can’t touch him. A hatred and rejection of Chaos becomes a weapon against it.’ ‘The armour of contempt,’ said Welt. ‘I am familiar with Inquisitor Ravenor’s writings. The idea was not original to him.’ He stepped back from the rope rail. ‘You may be right. It is an enobling notion. We might save mankind by strength of character, rather than by an extracted tincture of moth venom. History will like the former better.’ He looked back at Gaunt. ‘But you’ll forgive me for testing the moth venom.” Excerpt From The Armour of Contempt Dan Abnett This material may be protected by copyright. Gods, I can't wait to read more Ghosts. Poor Gereon though :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4896497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 There is a great quote from Mkoll in Armour of Contempt (I think) about Mkvenner's interpretation about Chaos which I think is something along those lines.It’s Gaunt himself who makes that recollection: “Mkvenner, one of my original team, had a notion. He reckoned Chaos didn’t destroy us. It didn’t taint and infect like a disease. It didn’t work like that at all, which is why there could be no cure.’ ‘He believed in force of will, I presume,’ said Welt. ‘Precisely. Chaos isn’t evil. It simply unlocks and lets out our propensities for evil and desecration. That is why it is so pernicious. It brings out our flaws. Force of will, determination, loyalty… these are the qualities that combat Chaos taint. If a man can remain true to the Throne, Chaos can’t touch him. A hatred and rejection of Chaos becomes a weapon against it.’ ‘The armour of contempt,’ said Welt. ‘I am familiar with Inquisitor Ravenor’s writings. The idea was not original to him.’ He stepped back from the rope rail. ‘You may be right. It is an enobling notion. We might save mankind by strength of character, rather than by an extracted tincture of moth venom. History will like the former better.’ He looked back at Gaunt. ‘But you’ll forgive me for testing the moth venom.” Excerpt From The Armour of Contempt Dan Abnett This material may be protected by copyright. Gods, I can't wait to read more Ghosts. Poor Gereon though :/ Gereon would be rebuild (eventually) with some hints to it in W41k. Need to verify where I have seen it. Plus you know that Mkvenner is not dead- it would be a cheaty way from Abnett side to drop a character ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4896921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izlude Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Dl’ed the three short stories before reading this book. Is their any particular order to read them or are they just separate? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4908851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The Track of Words article has this suggested reading order: The Absolution of Swords The Horusian Wars: Resurrection The Blessing of Saints The Maiden of the Dream The Purity of Ignorance Agent of the Throne: Blood and Lies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4909283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I hadn't realised the extent to which Eisenhorn, Cherubael, Covenant, and Josef originated in the Inquisitor game and miniatures, having not been involved in the hobby back in the early 2000s, until I read the Track of Words article and the interviews it links to. Fascinating stuff. The Inquisitor rulebook is a fun read, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4909596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I’m staying clear of the small books as I’m pretty sure they will be published in a compilation soon. They aren’t essential reading from what I can tell and I would rather have them in print. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4909617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Absolution of Swords pretty directly leads into Resurrection. The other two are more removed from the main narrative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4909624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I thought John French's comments in the various interviews about how the whole "Covenant & Co." project was conceived as playing out across multiple formats were interesting - for instance, the notion of Agent of the Throne being released on a fairly regular schedule like a streaming TV series, and being much less directly connected to the Horusian Wars trilogy of novels than one might expect (since Ianthe hersef operates more independently of Covenant's retinue than others). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4909633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izlude Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I just finished this book last night. It was a solid read and enjoyed the story. I do agree with what the majority have said so far, seemed overly descriptive but did enjoy the character cast, they were well developed. There were some nice twists towards the end (sort of alpha legion style similar to his PoD book) which was done well. I will say I never got the sense that any of them were ever in danger which sort of weakens the emotional investment. Although to be fair, I felt the same way about the characters in Carrion Throne. I think it will build nicely to subsequent books. Aside from what others have said, my two main gripes: 1. Wish we had more on the Horusian lore/stuff, felt like it was sort of glossed over despite that the book was named after this 2. His psycannon: It is interesting he describes the shoulder psycannon moving and tracking...but I don't recall if it actually shoots and wastes any baddies at all... Anyways I enjoyed the book and while one can't help but to compare it to Carrion Throne, I like the latter slightly more as the Terra stuff is more of interest to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-4954469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Table of contents for Horusian Wars; Divination The Absolution of Swords The Knave of Stars The Mistress of Threads The Circle of the Sword The Spirit of Cogs The Thief of Chalices The Maiden of the Dream The Purity of Ignorance The Son of Sorrows The Father of Faith The Blessing of Saints That means there is quite a few new stories in there actually. I have marked in bold the ones that we've never heard of, and Spirit of Cogs was released only a very short while ago in Inferno 3. I am really interested to hear who and what these 5 stories are about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-5406234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I really need a chronology at this point. I read Resurrection and didn't like the sum of its parts and the repetitive nature of its action sequences, but the shorts I read were great. I wonder if it'll come together better if read as a whole, in a more sensible order, along with Incarnation and Abomination... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-5406300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred_the_great Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I've read the two "main" novels, and, well, meh. Actually, I felt for Josef, but Covenant and the Horusian shenanigans were just too abstract for a 40k novel. You can see what he was trying to do - show, don't tell, obliqueness over direct description - but none of the main protagonists were strong enough to drive it. Abnett did it much better, as did Farrer (Calpurnia series). Bit of a shame as I'm far more interested in domestic 40k than bolter porn or the HH arc. Ho hum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-5426697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 The second book is getting a limited ed which is rather surprising as the reactions I remember were not very positive. Expectations for this series were sky high as we hadn’t had any inquisition tales in an age when the first one came out. I’ve enjoyed the books and will pick up this anthology at some point but it never met my expectations when he series was announced. Wraight has done a much better job in my opinion with the vaults books at getting back to great inquisition tales. I still hope French continues with the Horusian books as it’s a great storyline and adds buckets of depth to the inquisition as an institution and the thinking in the 40k galaxy. I just hope the stories improve! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336837-resurrection-the-horusian-wars/page/4/#findComment-5426979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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