On being a Templar

[Honda]

MOD VOICE:

 

Ok, let's have a little understanding among ourselves.

 

You all have a right to your opinions. That is one of the great strengths of our community, everyone gets to be represented.

 

However, with that freedom comes a very important responsibility.

 

One of the other great strengths of this community is the positive, nurturing environment that encourages new members and old, regardless of skill level or aptitude, providing the fertile soil for people to grow.

 

That doesn't happen when people are negative. In fact, just the opposite occurs. Other forums out there have allowed any type of discussion to the detriment of the community and all there have suffered.

 

That isn't going to happen here.

 

We are a unique forum in a unique environment. We are different. We hold ourselves to a higher standard and that is why we thrive. It is harder to be positive. Things don't always go your way. That is how life is. It is a measure of your character by how you react to what happens to you.

 

This forum is a little bit like Real Life . Things happen to our little world. Sometimes they are good, some times not. Sometimes you like what has happened, sometimes you don't.

 

Very often you don't get to choose what happens.

 

That does not give you the right to turn this place into your toilet.

 

Things have gotten a little out of hand in the last little bit. People went from being very excited about what was happening in 8th edition to jumping off the cliff because of rumors.

 

That is not like us at all. We're all better than that.

 

We need to reflect those ideals that represent us, that's how we continue to grow and develop as a forum.

 

So I'm laying down the gauntlet and going to challenge you. We are known for our ZEAL.

 

However, ZEAL is a two edged sword. When it isn't focused on productive endeavors, it turns sour very quickly.

 

The tone here has become sour.

 

Some of you may not like being positive, and I'm not talking about being a fanboi/fangurl or pollyannish.

 

I am talking about being the type of person who is a contributor, who builds upon what is already there. Someone who makes this place a little better when they are here.

 

We are experiencing unprecedented change in something that we all hold dear. Some of us have quite an investment in this little world we exist in and we might feel threatened by all the change occurring. It is human nature to avoid change. Change takes us out of our comfort zone. Change can be difficult.

 

Change is personal.

 

That isn't something new for us Templars. We have had change thrust upon us since we lost our codex. It happened and there's no going back to the way it used to be...except in how we adapt to the changes around us.

 

How we conduct ourselves.

 

We can choose to remain resolute. We can emulate those ideals and individuals that make our chapter what it is. We can take the blow, if that is how you perceive it, and remain standing.

 

We can choose to remain Templars.

 

So make that choice.

 

Decide to stay, uphold the honor that is ours and ours alone. Pick up your sword and continue this journey, the one we call "The Eternal Crusade".

 

Be the light.

[+Chaplain Matthias+]

I have yet to play my first game so I'm not sure I understand all the hubub around these new rules. But I will say, its the culture of this specific sub forum that caused me to choose black templars. The community surrounding our army is the best I've seen and I hope it endures. Zeal and fury brothers.

[Firepower]

You know, when you became a Mod Honda I was grumpy because it solidified the place of the irritating red text in the subforum on an official level.  But now I realize the true crisis: you now have two eye gouging text colors in your arsenal.

 

As for the matter at hand, I would have just gone with 'Suck it up and quit pissing in everyone's corn flakes' but your way is more...thematic.  Guess that's why you're the Mod.  That, and because the powers that be fear my inevitable coup of the BnC!  

 

What was I rambling about again?

 

Oh right, corn flakes.

 

Firepower hungry.

 

To be a touch more serious, the Templar subforum has long been a bastion of silliness and stupidity in the good times, and stubborn doggedness in the bad.  We have seen this sudden upsurge of vitriol and whinging before when we got rolled.   happens.  I'm a curmudgeonly as they come, but there are better vents than the BnC (which is not a vent at all), and particularly the eye-holes of your fellow Templar forumites.  

 

Corn flakes people.  Corn flakes.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Firepower

[Stemplar]

Honda. Yes. Precisely.

 

As a newbie I have found this place to be friendly and welcoming and helpful. Of late, however, there is a lot more negativity. Fair enough - you all know much more than I do. But I'm excited by the new rules and after a few games am really enjoying the changes.

 

At the very least, I believe, we should wait until we know the facts before jumping straight into ranting. In short, I 100% agree with the sentiment!

 

Apologies if more experienced players find this offensive, but let's see what we are actually really in store for before going nuts! A supposed leak means nothing until it's confirmed.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Stemplar

[Schlitzaf]

And I think we have good reason to be excited! Don't forget how awesome our characters are this edition. Our tactics might be a bummer but they are not bad. Could very well be worse. And don't forget we represented in Fall of Cadia

[TheOneTrueZon]

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

- Martin Luther King

[Lord Blackwood]

This is a good message here is hoping it serves as a rallying cry and a warning.

[Firepower]

This is a good message here is hoping it serves as a rallying cry and a warning.

 

Who needs the former when you have the latter? :D

 

The paddleum is all the positive morale a disciplined Templar needs.

[Marshal Wolfhart]

You can always lower the colors and brightness on the screens within your amniotic fluids venerable brother :P

[Marshal_Roujakis]

HA! while I might be complaining about the lackluster Chapter Tactics, do not take my frustrations as a sign of defeatism... far from it, I would take the Crusade to the farthest reachest of known space and even towards the Eye of Terror itself... I might be disappointed, but I will make this work despite its short comings...

 

But I will not lie to you Brothers... it is a weak Chapter Tactic, but then again, when has the Black Templars ever taken the easy road to victory...

[Lysere]

If anything it's best our tactic isn't the strongest of our peers. Keeps the masses from simply being a Templar because of how powerful they are while missing the whole point.

 

There is no challenge we won't accept, and those who fail to understand that can't truly call themselves a Templar. Our tactic helps us complete the most vital of missions as well, bringing our wrath to the xeno, the traitor, and the heretic.

[Ebon Hand]

I was a bit late to the discussion and only got to read it but I was also dismayed to see all the negativity. I don't understand it.

 

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. Do you know what chapter tactic I expected to get? NOTHING. I have crusaded since the third edition. I slogged through 6th and 7th and took my licks with a smile. Even when I was slaughtered I made them pay dearly. I've only played a few games of 8th but I've adapted exceptionally well to the current environment. Anything we get extra is just extra muscle and sinew, fire and steel to aid in our terrible mission.

 

I kill xenos and heretics just fine with what I have now. Is not bolter and blade all we need? Our righteous zeal isn't in our rules, it's in our mentality. We never falter, we do not give up, and none can stay our wrath. Focus brothers, you can feel it coursing through your veins, perfect human blood inside fists made in Dorn and the Emperor's image.

 

This crusade is ETERNAL. Never forget that.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Ebon Hand

[Marshal_Roujakis]

Welp, Not sure where to post this since the 8th edition Tactics discussion topic has been closed by the mods, but this seemed a good a page as any... seems like we'll be getting the Chapter Focus after the Iron Hands together with the other Sons of Dorn... 

 

From what I saw with their relic weapon, it might be the same for us... a weapon will be replaced with the relic, but not just for Marshals or Sword Brothers, but for any model armed with that certain type of weapon... see Axe of Medusa for context... wonder if a model armed with a Meltabomb could exchange it for a Holy Orb of Antioch?

[redmapa]

A weapon would be nice but what if its a Blessed Hull for a Land Raider? That would also be cool.

[Sete]

Don't think it will be a weapon. We already have black sword and Sword of the High Marshall.

[bolvar]

Talking about possible stratagem, I only hope that isn't something related to pseudoduels or abhor the witch. Fluffy but far too situational compared with all the other stratagems that 1st founding chapters got. I'd bet that's something that should go well with our CT, maybe some bonus for units that made a succesful charge?

 

Hmm, let's see the others:

 

UM: can regain spent CP on a roll

RG: infiltrate unit

WS: advance and charge with bikes

IH: move and shoot heavy weapons without malus

Salamanders: something related to flamers although we don't know exactly what

 

Talking about vows as possible stratagem...

Uphold the honour of the Emperor would be much like IHs CT. Just don't see it.

Accept any challenge, no matter the odds: I already see that on rites of battle aura from marshals, we have enough reroll auras to receive an army wide one phase missed hit rerolls.

Abhor the witch, destroy the witch: Auto deny a succesfully passed enemy psychic power? As I said, fluffy but too much situational.

If we got a stratagem based on "suffer not the unclean to live" vow that give us +1 to wound rolls, would be too much OP, right?

 

Something that allow us to attack the enemy if they try to fall back would be highly synergistic with our CT and the nightmare that the xenos, traitors and heretics deserve but that would be even more OP. Oh dear Emperor if we get that...

Edited July 20, 2017 by bolvar

[Medjugorje]

Don't think it will be a weapon. We already have black sword and Sword of the High Marshall.

I dont know why - but i am sure, we get a close combat weapon.